A "NetScreen Fan" who wants to argue a price list with a vendor on a 
Firewall mail list.  Too cute.  Everyone has an opinion.  You are welcome 
to air yours.

Liberty for All,

Brian

At 05:30 PM 2/21/2002 -0700, Joe Vasquez wrote:
>Brian,
>
>"The 515E will outperform any of the competitors you mentioned on a T-1
>Internet connection."
>
>
>The Cisco bundle with the VPN accelerator, added network cards and 3DES
>license (not including Smart Net) would easily be around $7K. The items Mike
>listed are more in the $3k range. The model mentioned is not a fair
>competitor.
>
>I cannot speak for the others, but based on the feedback of customers I
>think a Netscreen 25 would still compete extremely well against the higher
>priced unit especially if there is only a T1 worth of activity coming in.
>
>Joe
>Netscreen Fan
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ford
>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:21 AM
>To: Mike Guadagnino
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Internet Firewall (Was: Firebox/SonicWall/Netscreen)
>
>
>Mike,
>
>I'd suggest looking at a Cisco 515E running either v6.1(2) or v6.2 PIX OS
>and PDM (PIX Device Manager) v1.0(2) or 2.0.
>
>Both are equipped with the on board new setup wizard.  This greatly
>simplifies the install process.  You should have the firewall installed and
>running in less than 20 minutes.  Setting up mail and web servers is
>integrated into the setup process.
>
>PDM is the GUI for the PIX.  It's a signed Java applet also on board the
>PIX.  You can access it via a browser running SSL.  You define what range
>of addresses are allowed to access PDM during setup.  The earlier version 1
>of PDM still requires that you use the command line interface to set up a
>few functions.  PDM v2.0 just about completely removes the need to look at
>the command line.
>
>The 515E features an integrated VPN accelerator.  The 515E will outperform
>any of the competitors you mentioned on a T-1 Internet connection.  The
>Cisco VPN client runs on Windows 95 OSR2 and all later Microsoft Windows
>operating systems (98, ME, NT, 2000, and XP).  We also have VPN clients for
>Mac 8, 9, and X.  And a Linux client.  We should have a Solaris client by
>late Summer.  Our "VPN Dialer" is very easy to install and support.
>
>Something you may want to consider is failover.  The PIX failover bundle
>solution is very reasonably priced (we don't charge you full price for a
>second PIX).
>
>I think you'll be pleased with Cisco TAC support.
>
>HTH.
>
>Liberty for All,
>
>Brian
>
>
>At 03:15 PM 2/20/2002 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:09:22 -0800
> >From: "Mike Guadagnino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Firebox/SonicWall/Netscreen
> >
> >Hi there -
> >
> >After a fair amount of research I have narrowed my choices to these 3
> >products:
> >
> >FireBox 1000
> >SonicWall 200
> >NetScreen 25
> >
> >These were based on performance with a big emphasis on ease of use
> >(being a one man show here), for under $5000. I have about 300 clients
> >connected to the Internet on a T1. I will be hosting a mail and multiple
> >web servers (all with fairly low usage). Eventually about 50 of my users
> >will be given VPN access.
> >
> >Just looking for any insights or comments on any of these products. Or,
> >God forbid, any product I may have overlooked in this category.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Mike
>
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