The original request was for other "firewalls under $5k". I am not "arguing" a price list, just factoring price as a reasonable context for comparisons.
You work for Cisco so you may have these part codes figured out better than me but from the Cisco site http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/p515e_ds.htm it seems that the 515E Restricted (around $3k market price) does not include the accelerator card (also limits to 3 ports), instead the Unrestricted version is touted as having it (around $5900 market). Using the Cisco configurator, it seems we need a couple of network cards (to get 4 ports, $300) and the 3DES feature set ($800 market). Note that I was using market not suggested list prices. The above prices are not my opinion. I do have an opinion that price does matter in tech purchases. Thanks, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joe Vasquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: RE: Internet Firewall (Was: Firebox/SonicWall/Netscreen) > > A "NetScreen Fan" who wants to argue a price list with a vendor on a > Firewall mail list. Too cute. Everyone has an opinion. You are welcome > to air yours. > > Liberty for All, > > Brian > > At 05:30 PM 2/21/2002 -0700, Joe Vasquez wrote: > >Brian, > > > >"The 515E will outperform any of the competitors you mentioned on a T-1 > >Internet connection." > > > > > >The Cisco bundle with the VPN accelerator, added network cards and 3DES > >license (not including Smart Net) would easily be around $7K. The items Mike > >listed are more in the $3k range. The model mentioned is not a fair > >competitor. > > > >I cannot speak for the others, but based on the feedback of customers I > >think a Netscreen 25 would still compete extremely well against the higher > >priced unit especially if there is only a T1 worth of activity coming in. > > > >Joe > >Netscreen Fan > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ford > >Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:21 AM > >To: Mike Guadagnino > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Internet Firewall (Was: Firebox/SonicWall/Netscreen) > > > > > >Mike, > > > >I'd suggest looking at a Cisco 515E running either v6.1(2) or v6.2 PIX OS > >and PDM (PIX Device Manager) v1.0(2) or 2.0. > > > >Both are equipped with the on board new setup wizard. This greatly > >simplifies the install process. You should have the firewall installed and > >running in less than 20 minutes. Setting up mail and web servers is > >integrated into the setup process. > > > >PDM is the GUI for the PIX. It's a signed Java applet also on board the > >PIX. You can access it via a browser running SSL. You define what range > >of addresses are allowed to access PDM during setup. The earlier version 1 > >of PDM still requires that you use the command line interface to set up a > >few functions. PDM v2.0 just about completely removes the need to look at > >the command line. > > > >The 515E features an integrated VPN accelerator. The 515E will outperform > >any of the competitors you mentioned on a T-1 Internet connection. The > >Cisco VPN client runs on Windows 95 OSR2 and all later Microsoft Windows > >operating systems (98, ME, NT, 2000, and XP). We also have VPN clients for > >Mac 8, 9, and X. And a Linux client. We should have a Solaris client by > >late Summer. Our "VPN Dialer" is very easy to install and support. > > > >Something you may want to consider is failover. The PIX failover bundle > >solution is very reasonably priced (we don't charge you full price for a > >second PIX). > > > >I think you'll be pleased with Cisco TAC support. > > > >HTH. > > > >Liberty for All, > > > >Brian > > > > > >At 03:15 PM 2/20/2002 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:09:22 -0800 > > >From: "Mike Guadagnino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Firebox/SonicWall/Netscreen > > > > > >Hi there - > > > > > >After a fair amount of research I have narrowed my choices to these 3 > > >products: > > > > > >FireBox 1000 > > >SonicWall 200 > > >NetScreen 25 > > > > > >These were based on performance with a big emphasis on ease of use > > >(being a one man show here), for under $5000. I have about 300 clients > > >connected to the Internet on a T1. I will be hosting a mail and multiple > > >web servers (all with fairly low usage). Eventually about 50 of my users > > >will be given VPN access. > > > > > >Just looking for any insights or comments on any of these products. Or, > > >God forbid, any product I may have overlooked in this category. > > > > > >Thanks! > > >Mike > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Firewalls mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls > > _______________________________________________ Firewalls mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls
