Trust me on this one, the major intelligence and security agencies have firewalls from a number of vendors. Cisco has deployed PIXen in nearly all of them, so I can say with complete confidence that Cyberguard's claims re:NSA are marketing fluff (Gee, is that a surprise to anyone? Sales people will say almost anything to make a sale. None of us here need to be reminded of that. :)

-bill

At 03:38 PM 2/25/2002 -0500, Ralph Los wrote:

Yes...supposedly that is true.  BUT...and I say BUT, is it the ONLY firewall of the NSA and Boeing?  I surely say no, because we have CyberGuard, whom we just started supporting, and they are claiming they exclusively own the government [NSA] contract for firewalls....anyone care to discuss this one?

        I have a great "Celebrity Death Match" in mind...CyberGuard spinsters vs. SecureComputing spinsters....discuss.

"momento mori" - remember, you will die.

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::hello steve
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::sidewinder is a product from secure computing , it has never
::been broken by anyone (sic) !!!!!!!!!! It's the firewall of
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::I'd like to know which firewall / vpn to choose between
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