Is this what I have hear referred to as "transparent NAT" ? Also thought 
that this type of UDP encapsulation only worked with ESP even still? Maybe 
thats a Checkpoint centric perspective though.

Cliff

At 05:17 PM 3/22/2002 -0500, H. Morrow Long wrote:
>You probably want to use a feature that the Cisco Universal VPN client
>and Secure VPN server 30XX series support which will tunnel IPSEC over
>UDP.  You can select a UDP port (defaults to 10,000 I believe) to use
>to tunnel the IPSEC over.  See the Cisco VPN documentation.
>
>Encapsulating the IPSEC packets ( IP, AH, ESP and ULP payload ) within
>a UDP 'wrapper' protects IPSEC from the harmful IP address rewriting
>effects of NAT by isolating them from it...
>
>- H. Morrow Long
>
>Josh Welch wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > We are currently having issues with Cisco's 3000 VPN Client
> > > (ver. 2.5.2 B)
> > > connecting via IKE to a PIX (6.1 (3)) from behind Checkpoint FW-1 4.1 Sp5
> > > doing hide NAT.
> >
> > I am not familiar with these products, but if I understand IKE, it implies
> > using an IPSec VPN. If you are natting with an IPSec VPN, you will have
> > problems. NAT rewrites the packet headers, IPSec checks headers to make
> > sure that they have not been tampered with between the server and the
> > client, you can see how this would create a conflict. Typically speaking,
> > it is not recommended to use an IPSec VPN through a NAT gateway.
> >
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