Message From Jerry Chandler
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(Please post to FIS)
List, Stan:
Are you serious about taking up scientific ostension?
A. Lavoisier was the first to apply a systematic theory of information
to ostensive but invisible and indivisible relations within materially
causal systems.
John Dalton was the first to apply a systematic mathematical theory of
information to the invisible and indivisible relations within materially
causal systems.
Both Lavoisier and Dalton were motivated by the earlier decisive
experimentation of J. Priestley showing the ostensive material causal
relations relating plant to animal life.
(I am using the term "information" in the sense of non-predicative
objects (concepts) bringing form into a system; this usage is not
restricted to Keilmeyer's notion of organic forces.)
With regard to the role of information theory in the relations between
traditional inquiry and technology, one has to look no further than the
International System of Units (de Tracy) which imagined relations
between mathematical functions and the measurable properties of nature.
Although the SI was purposed for economic purposes of "fair trade", it
has become the de facto basis of logical relations of physics and
engineering.
No ostension between the Lavoisier/Dalton theory of information and the
SI system is possible.
Cheers
Jerry
*From: *Stanley N Salthe <ssal...@binghamton.edu
<mailto:ssal...@binghamton.edu>>
*Date: *January 19, 2011 9:35:51 AM EST
*To: *fis@listas.unizar.es <mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>
*Subject: **Re: [Fis] Future discussions*
Tagging on after Joseph --
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:19 PM, joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
<mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch> <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
<mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>> wrote:
Dear Pedro and All,
Thank you for your note and the ambitious program. My brief comments
by theme:
--Theme 1: Historical Foundations of Modern Science.
Sounds very interesting; the "Science and Society" aspect fits
well with Theme 3.
I hope it will discuss how science was taken over as (became limited to)
support for technology.
-- Theme 2: On Information Theory.
My hope is that this discussion will have a good deal to do with
qualitative as well as quantitative aspects of information.
Perhaps people should state clearly what the primary interests
and objectives are of their remarks.
Maybe it could take up ostension? This would bring in vagueness (or at
least fuzzy information theory)?
-- Theme 3: Foundations of Social Information Science.
This should be a fascinating occasion to evaluate different
social models from an informational standpoint.
Again, ostensible communication. Pointed absence of communication?
STAN
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