-------- Message from Krassimir Markov --------
Dear Qiao Tian-qing and FIS Colleagues,
Now we see another reason to start working together to clear the field.
Only in our list we have presented several theories and ( let specially
stress on this!) all are nice reasoning and ( again very important! )
all are truth (of course from corresponded point of view)!
During the GIT 2011, I will propose to establish common FIS & ITHEA SIG
on this problem.
The main goal is to review all known theories and to try to establish
common understanding and maybe ontological structure.
At least - to clear correspondences between theories we know well.
Everybody is invited and every opinion is welcome!
I hope the result will be a monograph. It may be published by ITHEA
publishing house on paper, CD and free online.
Friendly regards
Krassimir
*From:* Pedro C. Marijuan <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 2:15 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [Fis] [Different GTI] --From QTQ
Message from Qiao Tian-qing
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Dear FISers
There is another general theory of information (GTI_A ).
I consider,
The customarily named information is the collection of three kinds of
things´ attributes: things themselves (including cause or effect formed
through their interaction), the attributes of things that someone thinks
and simulates, and the attributes of tools someone or something uses
when considers, expresses, or simulates something. The first kind of
attributes of things is based on facts, for example, the three states of
water, someone is swimming. This are physical, chemical, biological,
social or any other properties of things, irrefutable and objective,
which have nothing to do with any expressive way related to the thing
(such spoken and written languages, music or pictures). The second kind
is related with the inner thoughts, or expressions through talk, or
sentence, namely, some attributes of things that someone can find; or
the attributes of things that could be simulate according to science and
technology. The third kind is the attributes of tools used by someone
(or something) when he himself thinks, or expresses, or simulates
something, i.e. the state of brain neurons when he thinks, the line
trend of words when writes, the vibration frequency and intensity of
sound when speaks, the bit of circuit devices in a computer, or the
models of devices used in an experiment, etc. Supposing that the sign X
represents the first kind of attributes, X’ the second, and X_nlfb the
third, and info represents the information, we can simply express the
customarily named information as follows:
info = X +X ’+X_ nlfb
For example: In the Hindoo Idiom “The Blind Men and The Elephant”, if
the four blind men are A, B, C, D, therefore,
info_ i = X + (X’)_ i + (X_nlfb )_ i
i =A，B，C，D.
The four pieces of information, the X is the same, however, the X’ or
X_nltb is different.
In order to make clear the above described conception of information,
the expressions of information, which is a natural phenomenon, are
listed below:
info = X
But the expression of absolutely lying information should be as follows:
info = X’+X_ nlfb
The information, in words for the illiterate as well as abstract art and
animals’ sound for the vast majority of people, is expressed here:
info = X_ nlfb
Or words for the illiterate, abstract art and animals’ sound can be
shown as:
info = X
If you accept the above expressions, you can get out of tight spot to
define information in philosophy. Hoping it will be helpful to end the
philosophical exploration for the concept of information.
Please test it. Please give me suggestions.
With great respect
Qiao Tian-qing
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QTQ
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