Dear colleagues, Could it be so that Philosophy of Statistical Mechanics does not make much sense without Philosophy of Cognition and philosophy of the rest?
Could it be so that what we need is Natural Philosophy as it was before it has fallen apart into specialist sciences? With best regards, Gordana -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Collier Sent: den 11 februari 2013 18:38 To: Loet Leydesdorff; 'Pedro C. Marijuan'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier I guess I am at a loss to see them as separate discourses. Especially in the domain of Information. Contrary to what Stan said, I think that many of the major advances in science from Statistical Mechanics, to Relativity Theory to Quantum Mechanics did and continue to have a major philosophical component, and professional philosophers work with scientists directly in each of these fields, It used to be true in Computer Science, but is less so now. In Cognitive Science there is currently virtually now separation. In Biology there are many philosophers who work with biologists, and vice versa, but far too many who do not. I think that technology is much more linked to industry than it is to the sciences above. John At 06:03 PM 2013/02/11, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: >How does one measure the synergy among three discourses? >That is an interesting question within information theory (as part of >both science and philosophy). > >Best, >Loet > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan >Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:29 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An >Alternative Relation] S.Brier > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: SV: [Fis] Science, Philosophy and Information. An >Alternative >Relation >Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:32:04 +0100 >From: Søren Brier <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Pedro Clemente >Marijuan Fernandez <[email protected]>, [email protected] ><[email protected]>, John Collier <[email protected]> >References: <[email protected]> > > > >Dear Joseph > > > >I go for each of the three nominally independent disciplines are not >independent, but that each provides a dynamic ontological and >epistemological link to the other two, more or less strong or "actual" >depending on the extent to which one wishes to emphasize certain >aspects of knowledge. Science without philosophy is stupid but >philosophy without science is blind. I am for a synergetic interaction. > > > > > >Best wishes > > > > Søren Brier > > > >Professor in the semiotics of information, cognition and commmunication >science, > >department of International Business Communication, Copenhagen Business >School, > >Dalgas Have 15, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark, > > > > > > > > > >*Fra:* [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] *På vegne af >*[email protected] >*Sendt:* 7. februar 2013 17:37 >*Til:* Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez; [email protected]; John >Collier >*Emne:* [Fis] Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative >Relation > > > >Dear FIS Colleagues, > >The formation of the the Society for the Philosophy of Information at >the University of Hertfordshire is announced in the link in John's note. >It includes the announcement and Call for Papers of the International >Conference on the Philosophy of Information to be held in Xi'An, China >in October, 2013, sponsored by both the above Society, led by Professor >Luciano Floridi and the Institute for the Philosophy of Information in >Xi'An under the direction of Professor Wu Kun. > >This increased activity in the area of the philosophy of information >(another major Workshop is planned this Spring) raises the issue of the >relation between the science and philosophy of information as well as >of the philosophy of science. I am aware of and agree with the position >expressed by Pedro that information science in the FIS framework should >emphasize scientific research in the sense of knowledge that is >quantifiable and/or provable. However, I do not believe that either he >or others of you intend to exclude rigorous qualitative knowledge, >especially as it concerns the dual nature of information. > >The ubiquitous presence of information in all disciplines, as >emphasized by Wu, suggests an alternative relation linking philosophy, >science and information that is NOT one of simple hierarchical >inclusion or possession ("of"). One possibility is to say that it is >information that links philosophy and science, but this formulation >perhaps fails to recognize the general properties of the latter two. > >Another possibility is to say that each of the three nominally >independent disciplines are not independent, but that each provides a >dynamic ontological and epistemological link to the other two, more or >less strong or "actual" depending on the extent to which one wishes to >emphasize certain aspects of knowledge. > >I look forward to your comments regarding the pros and cons of such a >conception. Thank you. > >Best wishes, > >Joseph > >----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- >Von: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >Datum: 04.02.2013 18:57 >An: "fis"<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >Betreff: [Fis] Society for the Philosophy of Information > >http://www.socphilinfo.org/ > > >---------- >Professor John Collier >[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Philosophy and Ethics, >University of KwaZulu-Natal, Durban 4041 South Africa >T: +27 (31) 260 3248 / 260 2292 F: +27 (31) 260 3031 ><http://web.ncf.ca/collier>http://web.ncf<http://web.ncf.ca/collier>.ca >/coll >ier ><http://web.ncf%3chttp:/web.ncf.ca/collier%3e.ca/collier> > >_______________________________________________ >fis mailing list >[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > > > >-- >------------------------------------------------- >Pedro C. 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