Dear Joseph

I tried saying something like that in a conference and was confronted with
someone who made it clear I have been scooped by the
scientologists<http://www.scientologycourses.org/courses-view/communication/step/34.html>..
I was dissapointed and would love to reclaim it!

Best
Roly


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Joseph Brenner <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>wrote:

> Dear FISers,
>
> There is here an important idea which I think is worth a note. The two
> elements (I say) are in a dynamic relation and a logical relation, as the
> mind moves between them. Alternately one or the other is predominant (more
> actualized)
>
> Lupasco said: "experience is logic; logic is experience". Closer to home we
> have: "information is constraints and constraints are information"
> (Kauffman
> et al, 2008).
>
> The purport of metabolism is change, not only burning carbon-hydrogen
> bonds.
> But perhaps we might all prefer "communicating is life; life is
> communicating".
>
> Best,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro C. Marijuan" <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>
> To: <fis@listas.unizar.es>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fis] The Communication Man
>
>
> Thanks. Loet. You might be interested in "semantic metabolism", coined
> by late Tom Stonier and published in this list too, long ago.
> The intertwining of our metabolic necessities and the communicational
> ones is amazing---our language picks it in countless expressions:
> dis-gust, bitterness, un-swabable; or the chinese ni-bao which is also
> quite realistic and interesting...
>
> best ---Pedro
>
>
> Loet Leydesdorff wrote:
> >> 11. Finally communication is life, and life is communication.
> >>
> >
> > Dear Pedro:
> >
> > If communication were alive, there would be a metabolism.
> > Indeed, it is too biological. (I just picked this one.)
> >
> > Best,
> > Loet
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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