Dear Emanuel, nice to hear such a response. I am curious to know your opinion and those of the FIS colleagues about the difference between "with" and "within". The strict lines of separation typical for reductionist science should be better avoided. In many cases, I have the feeling that it is "God's will" that we make this distinction, but what it actually means is a distinct state of collective consciousness, which can be activated on demand like in the "mother tree" scene of the movie "Avatar".
Best, Plamen ____________________________________________________________ On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Emanuel Diamant <emanl....@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > > > My name – Emanuel – in a literal translation means “God with us”. > > Despite of that, for the purpose of our current discussion, I would like > to mention: > > The external observer, which provide us with the needed semantic > information used (as a reference) for physical information interpretation, > at the very beginning was: or the Nature itself, or (more specific) the > natural evolution, or (even more specific) the natural selection. > > Best regards, > > Emanuel. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Dr. > Plamen L. Simeonov > *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2018 11:36 AM > *To:* Loet Leydesdorff > *Cc:* fis > *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Meta-observer? > > > > I know him: his name is God, the meta-observer + meta-actor at the same > time. > > Correct, Bruno? > > ;-) > > > > best, Plamen > > …………………………………………….. > > *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Loet > Leydesdorff > *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2018 9:53 AM > *To:* Koichiro Matsuno; fis@listas.unizar.es > *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Meta-observer? > > > > Dear Pedro, Koichiro, and colleagues, > > > > At the level of observers, indeed, a hierarchy may be involved for the > change of focus (although this is empirical and not necessarily the case). > The communication, however, as a system different from the communicators > may contain mechanisms such as "translation" which make it possible to > redirect. > > > > Best, Loet > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > >
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