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Here we go again. Just in case someone wasted time by reading the post below, 
it is meaningless indeed. However, it should not stand without objection which 
I hereby submit.

> Yes, you are right. It is meaningless.
> 
> As an example take CME, it produces data (which you have no control over
> if you wanted best prices or trades for example) for 6 markets with its
> depth. Now, that is an equivalent to an entire output for another
> alternative futures exchange does for over 6000 markets. You guessed it
> couple of orders of magnitude lost in scalability, and as proven by
> <insert exchange> TM !
> 
> As for FAST, it has been tested on meaningless and small sample data.
> Then it got 'approved' and story was sold of bandwidth and latency, wait
> for it: reduction! Hmm, what a marvelous achievement, but watch now as
> they'll push the depth to 10..
> 
> Please note you have read the facts above right and can easily verify it
> for yourself. That is the equivalent volume in traffic you will get,
> FAST encoded, so FAST has little benefit to communication designs that
> are as bad; especially TCP tunneled UDP.
> 
> Then you get recovery nonsense as designed as it is, plus bundling of
> data you do not want, plus FAST, plus TCP mixed with FIX and FIXFast..
> oh dear. FAST stream is so prone to errors, one byte gone bad will make
> you wait a good while (in time, dev and money)..
> 
> FAST apart from introducing huge latency, another fact easily testable
> in production exchange data shows a requirement for thousands, sometimes
> 100s of thousands of messages a second. That is another matter; so it is
> clearly the worst protocol in existence for latency reinvented so far.
> Again, if you require data on this try it out with all the vendor
> products, consultant designers etc and see for yourself.
> 
> Then bundle the waste of ethernet frame as it is commonly done, bundle
> the dictionary requirements, bundle the over-engineered compression
> (that is so oddly further compressible), you get the no meaning in
> FIXING FAST fever forever.. and voila, you get:
> 
> A clear disaster!
> 
> What's more, it is a disaster that will keep having new versions! (you
> will pay for in bandwidth, smart-designs in latency, over-engineering,
> smart bandwidth/depth/subscription control, committee ‘sense’ and
> telecom resales on the 'upgrade' path).
> 
> An adopter, whether forced or not, really ought to be inexperienced and
> young to this industry not to be able to see the flaws from the outset
> of the fixprotocol.org. If it is of any reconciliation, all
> implementation lunacy, and fat too, eventually gets trimmed.
> 
> Good luck wasting a lot of resources though..
> 
> Regards, Le Truth


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