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> > what is the major tag to login the FIX? what is the login syntax to
> > logon the FIX system?
> 
> 
> Vivian,
> 
> The Logon Message should always be the FIRST message process on any FIX
> Session. The message is defined by the MsgType Field(35=A). Logins
> should always be relayed between parties before any application messages
> are transmitted.
> 
> I'd suggest taking a look at the FIX Spec - 4.0 Session - for details.
> You can also take a look at www.openfix.net
> 
> ;)
> 
> dan saad - "I do the FIX"

Dan,

Your message touches on something that I've encountered recently and I wondered 
if you, or anyone else, could clarify something for me. I don't know whether 
you meant to imply that authentication handshaking (i.e. the exchange of Logon 
messages) must be completed before application messages can be sent, but the 
FIX.4.0 spec does not seem to me to be so clear.

For instance, in the section "SESSION PROTOCOL" it states "A FIX session is 
comprised of three parts: logon, message exchange and logout.", which kind of 
implies that logon must be completed before message exchange can begin. 
However, shortly after this in the same section, in the subsection "Logon" it 
states "The session initiator may begin to send messages immediately following 
the Logon message, however, the session may not be supported by the other side 
at this time. The initiator must wait for the confirming Logon message from the 
acceptor before declaring the session fully established."

Does this mean that the initiator may send application messages before 
receiving a Logon message from the acceptor if the parties concerned have a 
bilateral agreement in place? Obviously, messages received before a session is 
"fully established" should not be processed, but they could be queued.

Wayne.

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