[This message was posted by Richard Labs of CL&B Capital Management, LLC 
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Need to remember there is not much "precision" in FIXatdl in terms of layout, 
look of widgets, etc. Goal was to enable OMS systems to start from FIXatdl and 
extend /override as they saw fit to enable them to always remain 100% in 
control of their very proprietary and highly refined GUI environment. 

FIXatdl Widget library is limited and abstract (functional description only), 
Panels are not tightly defined (such as x,y,z positioning, colors etc). Some 
OMS systems want every similar strategy, across all the various different 
brokers to "look and feel" about the same on the trader's screens - that may 
mean repositioning things like start & end time from the way it is expressed in 
various FIXatdl files into their standard positioning. 

Bottom line - FIXatdl inherent GUI capability is "crude and primitive" 
therefore (unlike CSS, HTML, etc) FIXatdl "graphics" is very easy to learn. 

Also - you may benefit the most from looking at sample xml files (few are 
available, however more are on the way). They are so much easier to understand 
than looking at the xsd files themselves. There is also an open source parser 
render that can draw the files on the screen. You may find by making simple 
changes to sample files and having them drawn on the screen you can easily 
learn what is available in the drawing area. 

That's not to knock the tools out there. Actually the tools out there do much 
more than draw. They can provide "hand holding" for doing the rules expression 
(very slick and used in both the validation and flow areas), and can help with 
all parameters and values that must go on the wire. 

Again best advice is to try (or even make) tiny sample files in xml and skip an 
exhaustive study of the xsd's as the entry strategy. 

I totally agree with Russell Curry / Assimilate Technology we can't have in 
depth product promotion or pitches going on in Algo Trading Forum -- that stuff 
ONLY belongs in the product forum. 

However, when it's related to "how to use FIXatdl?" or "I what to do x, what's 
available to help me?" I'd hope this forum could show unbiased, non promotional 
type info that was genuinely helpful and deadly responsive to what specifically 
was actually asked. 

We just launched v1.1, the array of products, services and support around that 
is still getting settled. I didn't even know Assimilate had a visual product in 
this area. If its a v1.1 compliant product would love paragraph overview and 
link for more specific info....yes, posted here.

Also evolving: From the main FIXatdl page at FIX 
http://www.fixprotocol.org/FIXatdl

see: FIXatdl Solutions and XML File Providers

Any FIX member with FIXatdl 1.1 product should post to the outline so that part 
of the web can be brought up to date.... Thanks! 

Rick 

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