Ha! Not a chance, she's not very technically minded :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Wichman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 25 November 2005 13:41
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flvs fail to stream on an older pc
> 
> Let's just hope your client is not on this list as well ;)
> 
> At 02:24 PM 11/25/2005, you wrote:
> >Thanks to everyone who replied,
> >The problem seems to have been solved - at least for now...
> >
> >I had asked the client yesterday to try and reburn the 
> cd-rom from her 
> >mac, to see if maybe something had gone wrong with the 
> burning process. 
> >As I mentioned, the last cd-rom I sent her was working fine. 
> She hadn't 
> >come back to me about that, and even sent me an annoyed 
> email that had 
> >no mention of it. So I was fairly sure that failed.
> >
> >So Just now I called her to get some more info and talk her 
> through a 
> >test that would see if Robin's theory about the swfs was the 
> cause of 
> >the problem (although I do check for initialization, something might 
> >have slipped through on a slower system)... And she says "Oh yeah, I 
> >reburnt the cd-rom on the mac and it's working just fine on the pc".
> >Grrr... Clients!
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Karina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robin Burrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 24 November 2005 23:39
> > > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flvs fail to stream on an older pc
> > >
> > > Hi Karina
> > >
> > > Yes there's always will be a system which will cause problems.
> > > (It's just a bit annoying though when it happens on your client's 
> > > commuter)
> > >
> > > The CD-ROM should however run even on very slow system.
> > >
> > > >> application loads various swfs into a base swf file, and
> > > the flvs are
> > > >> >>loaded
> > >
> > > If you use multiple swf in your CD-ROM make sure that all 
> swfs are 
> > > initialized before you use them. For example I once was 
> working on a 
> > > CD where loaded a swf with a nested swf/flv player in my root swf.
> > >
> > > After loading the swf file I sent the video url to the loaded swf 
> > > file so that the nested component in the swf could play it.
> > >
> > > This all worked fine when I tested it on my computer and 
> on another 
> > > computer. However it didn't work on some computers even 
> if they had 
> > > fast processors.
> > >
> > > Eventually I found out that it was the CD-ROM drive. Some drives 
> > > were just  a bit too slow. So the swf file which 
> contained the video 
> > > player component was not loaded fast enough.
> > >
> > > As a result the url send from the main movie did never reach the 
> > > player in the loaded swf. The solution is quite easy though. 
> > > Whenever you use multiple swf files in your CD-ROM 
> project and you 
> > > want them to communicate between each other make sure that loaded 
> > > swf file is initialized properly before you send anything.
> > >
> > > A bulletproof way to do this is to have interval function in your 
> > > main movie which checks the value of a variable in your 
> loaded swf.
> > >
> > > e.g:
> > >
> > >
> > > // load the swf
> > > swfHolderMc.loadMovie("someSwf.swf");
> > >
> > > intervalId = setInterval(this, "executeCallback", 200);
> > >
> > > function executeCallback()
> > > {
> > >       If (swfHolderMc.getInicialized())// obviously you need
> > > a                     //getInicialized function in the swf
> > > file which is loaded
> > >
> > >       {
> > >               // do something in the loaded swf
> > >               clearInterval(intervalId);
> > >       }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > >
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > However
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Most of the times it is a faulty driver or some wired 
> configuration.
> > >
> > > I think these days it is not really necessary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > > Søren Christensen
> > > Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 9:54 AM
> > > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flvs fail to stream on an older pc
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Karina
> > >
> > > I have had similar problems like you.
> > >
> > > My cd-rom in question had 2 videos (both external flvs to profit 
> > > f7's smaller memory footprint advantage over f6 regarding videos) 
> > > Both videos was rather big in pixel size and approx 3 mins length 
> > > (about 30 megabytes each). So i knew they would demand a bit of 
> > > 'juice'.
> > >
> > > When testing with a 'raw' video test both a mac g4 500mhz
> > > (os9 and osx) and a p3 600mhz (both win2k + win 98) 
> worked fine with 
> > > no performance  problems playing from a cd.
> > >
> > > But my version with the final design was demanding quite 
> alot more 
> > > cpu to perform well.
> > > What i found out was that the pure presence of bitmap 
> graphics with 
> > > alpha information was decreasing the performance (demanding more 
> > > cpu) - even though the bitmap wasn't moving or something 
> was moving 
> > > over or under it.
> > >
> > > I still couldn't optimize it fully to fit my 'raw' tests - but it 
> > > put down the performance needs to a acceptable level.
> > > My minimum specs ended up at mac: g4 800mhz pc: p3 800mhz 
> (both 64mb 
> > > ram)
> > >
> > > I had other strange problems like sound issues with some pcs
> > > - some dell configurations with sound blaster live 
> soundcards and a 
> > > certain motherboards and cd-rom drive for some reason 
> distorted the 
> > > sound. (similar to the sound issues with flash
> > > 5 and soundblaster pci 64 and 128) but thing like this is out of 
> > > your hands.
> > > But well with cd-rom productions there always are some odd hw 
> > > configurations that just give problems (although in theory it 
> > > shouldn't).
> > > Using director would just giver other issues (and make the 
> > > production a lot more expensive due to the lack of cross platform 
> > > projector exporting back then). Flash gave us the unique 
> feature to 
> > > distribute video cross platform without being dependent 
> of 3rd party 
> > > media players.
> > > All in all the cd-rom was a success and went into its 2 
> edition with 
> > > a total of 70.000 units.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > >B) Søren
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24/11/05 17:26, "Karina Steffens" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi List,
> > > >
> > > > I'm on the last stages of development of an educational 
> CD-Rom in 
> > > > FlashMX 2004. The application uses a v2 media component
> > > loads flvs from the CD-Rom.
> > > > It's been developed on a pc (XP) and then zipped over 
> and burned 
> > > > on the Mac
> > > > (OSX) and set to the client.
> > > >
> > > > The client has an old mac and an even older PC (which 
> still uses 
> > > > windows 98...). The CD-Rom loads on both, but the flvs seem
> > > to work on
> > > > her mac but not on the pc (except for one or two). She also
> > > says that
> > > > an earlier version of the CD-Rom that I sent her does work,
> > > which is
> > > > puzzling. Also, there is a little test utility just for 
> the Flvs 
> > > > on the CD-Rom, and that also works. My application 
> loads various 
> > > > swfs into a base swf file, and the flvs are loaded to that, so
> > > it could be a memory thing.
> > > >
> > > > I can't run any of the tests myself, because I'm based in
> > > Dublin and
> > > > she is in London, so I don't know what to do. I tried to
> > > tell her that
> > > > her PC is just too old for the software, and I still
> > > haven't got any
> > > > data from her about how much memory it has. She's not very
> > > technical.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any ideas, solutions or minimum specs for
> > > this problem?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Karina
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Karina Steffens  |  Neo-Archaic
> > > > creative & technical new media design  
> > > > <http://www.neo-archaic.net/> www.neo-archaic.net
> > > >
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