Happy New Year to all of you, all the best wishes for 2012! May the world remain intact, and Flash replace HTML5 as the new web standard ;-)
Karina On 31 Dec 2011, at 12:31, Karl DeSaulniers <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually that JS, man, she has some pretty nice curves.. (wink) > > Me personally, I like HTML + XML + JS + PHP + Flash. > They REALLY know how to party together.. :) And when the mood is right they > put on a spectacular show! > Just watch out for XML, she likes to tie you up. ;) and well.. you know, > Flash gots' all the toys. > After a few go-arounds with any of them and they tell you all their secrets. > (But keep that on the hush hush.. =) > You can never have too many Codewatch Babes in your bungalow.. you never know > when one will up and leave... ;) > > Make it a real one people! > THANK YOU ALL for all your help this last year.. > See you on the other side. > > Best, > > Karl > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: > >>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another >>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something >>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on >>> Flash and I do not want to! >> >> I understand what you're saying. >> When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the >> mess that is JSP and Servlets. >> That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps >> more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8). >> Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc.. >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html >> >> If you look at this project structure: >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png >> That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm >> for instance, but without the Command pattern. >> There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation. >> >> And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close >> to Flex' MXML: >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html >> >>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? >>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? >>> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 >>> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to >>> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the >>> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another >>> programming language? >>> >> >> I hear ya ! >> I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm >> guessing) plugins will be a thing of the past. >> Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a matter >> of: "we don't have a choice." >> >> I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the >> Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out HTML/JS >> web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And I'm sure >> I'm not the only one :) >> >> The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to >> and not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML. >> That'd be my wish for 2012 :) >> >> regards, >> Muzak >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ima Newsletta" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "Flash Coders List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick >> >> >>> Thanks Muzak, >>> Very interesting links! >>> >>> However I said "easily" :-) >>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another >>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something >>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on >>> Flash and I do not want to! >>> >>> In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the >>> new devices. >>> >>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? >>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? >>> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 >>> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to >>> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the >>> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another >>> programming language? >>> >>> So right now, I stay with Flash. >>> >>> Happy new year to everyone. >>> >>> >>> Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: >>>> Sorry for the late reply.. >>>> >>>>> With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android >>>>> apps and ios apps? >>>> >>>> Yup, except for desktop. >>>> >>>> Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps. >>>> Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps with GWT yet. >>>> >>>> Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need. >>>> >>>> Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007. >>>> http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html >>>> The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has >>>> changed (improved) since then. >>>> >>>> And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of >>>> development. >>>> Smart GWT: http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/ >>>> GWT Mobile: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/ >>>> Ext GWT: http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/ >>>> etc.. >>>> >>>> As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :) >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Muzak >>>> >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Flashcoders mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Karl DeSaulniers > Design Drumm > http://designdrumm.com > > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders mailing list > [email protected] > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list [email protected] http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

