I fit is illigal (which I agree is the case) how does Quark get around that issue?
Jim -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaw, Matt (MTVN) Sent: 13 April 2006 23:19 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] RANT: Collect Fonts Button This would be illegal unless the fonts included a license which allowed copying them and sending them around. Unless the fonts were free... But yes, I agree that it is annoying. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of clark slater Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:16 PM To: [ExtendFlash]; [FlashCoders] Subject: [Flashcoders] RANT: Collect Fonts Button Print designers who use QuarkXpress have had an essential utility for years. They can collect all the fonts used in a project so that when passing the source file to a bureau for print the exact same fonts are supplied along with the artwork and layout. I cannot begin to list all the times we have encountered major pain because the designer who created a particular FLA has lost the fonts or reinstalled their operating system or for whatever reason can no longer get their hands on the fonts. It is such a phenomenal pain in the tits. In terms of production time this is a VERY costly problem. We have literally wasted hours screwing around with fonts trying to track down the exact font used in a particular file. Sometimes the font might be correct version - but different kerning table means it reflows everywhere. Arrrrggh. Often made worse by the way that font names are handled differently in Flash than in other programs using the exact same file. The scope for confusion is enormous. Even using third party font management tools like suitcase does not alleviate the problems because of the way that most design applications will install their own dirty secret fonts into the system fonts folder. Given the number of FLA files that are shared from designer to developer, agency to client to agency to freelancer etc. I simply cannot understand why Macromedia never saw fit to implement a utility like Quark has so it would be easy to collect all the fonts used in a particular file for handoff to the next part of the production workflow. The chance of font piracy is not a strong enough argument to explain why this critical design feature has been left out. After all anyone wanting to pirate fonts can just swap the contents of their system fonts folder etc. Clearly, I sincerely hope this is included in the next version of the Flash IDE - but I'm not holding my breath as it's been a submitted wishlist item since version 3 or 4! In the meantime it would be great if there was a way to handle this with JSFL. Unfortunately I can't see any way to access the fonts used property of a document. I'm sure we are not the only agency nearly driven to dementia with these kind of Flash font related issues. If anyone else out there shares our anguish please speak up, we need to convince Adobe to include proper font management in the next Flash IDE. And on the offchance that anyone has found a funky solution to this most annoying of problems, I will at the very least buy you a case of your favorite beer. And if anyone has any insights to how this could be pulled off with JSFL I would be very interested to discuss. OK anyone that made it this far thanks for listening to my ranting. Maybe we're the only Flash agency lame enough to be so badly affected by such font problems coz I don't really see this discussed anywhere, or maybe there's some really slick or simple solution that everyone else is using...but I'm betting not. In which case it seems like an extension that could fix this would be a *really* shit hot item for someone to develop and offer to the Flash community as a whole. Clark Slater www.bayinteractive.com _______________________________________________ [email protected] To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com _______________________________________________ [email protected] To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com _______________________________________________ [email protected] To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
