Haha fair enough. Just understand that my tone was playful and did not illicit a smartass response. You do make some good points as to the uses of a cert, but I'm still not sure that makes it worth much...with a Flash cert, I'm not going to demand the same respect as with a 4 year degree. There is no comparison there. And the other things seem as though they could be accomplished by actually DOING something with Flash, not just learning definitions. If you have a hiring manager who can BS enough to learn some definitions, and a potential hire than can BS enough to learn some definitions, what have you got in the long run? I will digress and recognize the validity of a cert in some instances, but I still think it's hopping over a low bar.
Cheers! On 12/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hi jordan, now do you feel better? now that you got that off your chest and out in the open? certifications are worthless. unless ... -- you are a newbie, and you are not even sure you are worthy of calling yourself a Flash developer. trust me, if you can pass this exam, you do know stuff. keep going. -- you are a non-technical hiring manager. yeah, you can just take the candidate's word for it that they know Flash. but i also definitely recommend that you look at their portfolio, and even more importantly check their references (to be sure that it is their portfolio). but if you are lazy and you can check that they passed an exam, at least that is better than nothing. -- you have a salary job for a big bureaucratic corporation, and hell if you know why, but if you pass the exam they will give you a pay raise. -- you or your employer partner with Adobe and passing the exam is a requirement for your continued employment. -- or it is a choice between college and the real world. heck a certification exam is $150. 4 year college degree $150,000 i have never met a subject matter expert that doesn't disdain the whole notion of certification exams. i guess it is not unlike neither bill gates nor steve jobs having college degrees. but hey, they still hire people that do. enough babble from me. technical certifications exist. i took them. my passing them in no way makes me a better flashcoder than you or steve. nor does it make me worse ;-) Now same to you, let's get back to playing nice with the other kids here in the Flash playground :-) Best wishes to you and yours this holiday season! Jordan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't agree with the smartassitude, but perhaps what Steven is insinuating is that proving that you know some syntax does not prove that you can actually do anything with it. I'm not at the epicenter of the Flash Universe and I think the cert is worthless. Is that a better way to put it? ;) Cheers! --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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