jordan, you hit the essence of it. it is "hopping over a low bar". technical certs are minimal, entry level credentials. kind of like a drivers license. and true, just because you have a license doesn't mean that you know how to drive ;-) achieving a technical cert is in no way on par with winning MAX Awards, Flash Film Festival, or landing a big account. and certainly passing a certification exam doesn't mean you will be able to go around seemingly effortlessly dropping code solutions here on flashcoders like steven does. so relative to those high honors, i concur that the cert is worth less. but ... when you are coming off ground zero, knocking off a cert can be a nice milestone along the way. btw, Flash certs are version specific. of all the languages i code, actionscript has been the most horribly unstable. however, now that Adobe has actionscript tied to ECMA-262, my hope is that as3 will be the last gut wrenching change for actionscript. point being when the Flash 9 cert comes out anyone who passes it will have to be up to date on as3, and conversely won't be required to know as2 or as1 (really, finally, good-bye prototype ;-) Jordan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Haha fair enough. Just understand that my tone was playful and did not illicit a smartass response. You do make some good points as to the uses of a cert, but I'm still not sure that makes it worth much...with a Flash cert, I'm not going to demand the same respect as with a 4 year degree. There is no comparison there. And the other things seem as though they could be accomplished by actually DOING something with Flash, not just learning definitions. If you have a hiring manager who can BS enough to learn some definitions, and a potential hire than can BS enough to learn some definitions, what have you got in the long run? I will digress and recognize the validity of a cert in some instances, but I still think it's hopping over a low bar.
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