Flashnewbies?? There is a list called flashnewbies?? Never knew that.
Subscribing as we speak. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: maandag 14 mei 2007 16:16
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Motion to combine coders and newbies.

I appreciate the arguments and kind words, but I vote to keep them
separate.  Here's why:

1) Flashnewbies does have some rather advanced topics from time to time,
but we need to help those people graduate to flashcoders, or if they
don't get an answer, encourage them to ask on Flashcoders.  
2) Flashnewbies is low-traffic (but not REAL low, I still see a dozen or
more messages a day), but that's a good thing in some ways.  
3) Flashnewbies is a good place to ask non-coding Flash questions, like
questions about the IDE or general strategy.
4) Flashbnewbies is (sorry to say), so much more polite, personal, and
friendly than Flashcoders.  Mixing the two, we'd lose that.  Flashcoders
is a huge 2000-unit townhome development in the city.  Flashnewbies is a
small 10 home neighborhood in the country.
5) People who don't get the help they need on Flashnewbies should ask on
Flashcoders anyway.
6) Flashcoders don't want to see a bunch of newbie questions on this
list, especially when the same questions get asked over and over. It
will add traffic they don't want to have to sort or mentally ignore.
7) More Flashcoders should consider subscribing to Flashnewbies just to
help people out.  Think of it as community service.  You might even
learn some things (I do). :)
8) If this proposal  requires further consideration, we should at least
open the same thread on Flashnewbies to get input from people over
there.  

Anyway, nice ideas, but personally, I don't think it would be the best
thing to combine the lists, no offense.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
GT&O Learning & Leadership Development
eTools & Multimedia Team


 

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Count 
>>Schemula
>>Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:54 PM
>>To: flashcoders list
>>Subject: [Flashcoders] Motion to combine coders and newbies.
>>
>>Hear me out before freaking out.
>>
>>1. Half of the posts in Coders are more or less Newbie posts anyhow.
>>
>>2. There is just not a lot of traffic in Newbies. So, it's hard to 
>>pick Coders brains and honestly, most Newbie questions can be answered

>>by a Coder in less than a minute. I post in Newbies, but answers can 
>>take days. Seems like Jason Merrill is one of the few Coders dedicated

>>to helping out those less fortunate.
>>
>>3. Making Newbies stronger benefits all. After a while, a typical 
>>dedicated Newbie will be able to field a lot of the other Newbie 
>>questions and the situation will level out.
>>
>>4. But oh, the increased traffic! Please. I have a dedicated gmail 
>>account for this list. It threads the posts together and has 
>>practically unlimited storage and very good search.
>>
>>5. Pound home the idea that Newbies need to title their posts as such
>>"No0b: How do I make a movie clip?" Coders don't have to do anything.
>>
>>6. What's good for Flash developers is good for  the Flash Platform.
>>Getting more Newbies to an intermediate level benefits the Flash 
>>Platform as a whole with better apps, better people in jobs to lobby 
>>for Flash, etc, etc.
>>
>>Ok, now you can freak out.
>>
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