I didn't mean hacking was wrong by any stretch, but i am not a "hacker". I simply don't have the time / budget to get in-depth on that level. Imagine what these hacker types (Andrè Michelle in particular) could do if the API natively supported the things they now hack to do? I don't really think the things Michelle does is "special" in terms of audio programming, but it IS special in a Flash context because of how limited the API is. It's a moan about how truly awesome Flash audio could've been with some direct way to affect audio and an orderly way to manage it i suppose?
I'll write up a feature request myself. Good to hear more people want the same :) - A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:16:03 PM (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 Sound = wtf > When Andre Michelle makes an AS3 303 emulator we're all impressed, but we > somehow fail to realize he made it with *hacks*. Advanced AS3 sound > manipulation is effectively barred to those not of his calibre. For "the rest > of us", we're stuck waiting for someone to build a robust sound control API > wrapper for AS3's frankensteinian mess. In my opinion, AS3 sound is only as > strong as you're willing to take punishment. Things were rough in AS2, but we > could work it. In AS3 it's equally rough, with added edges. > > > What's wrong with "hacking"? Someone has released an AIR app that allows you to mix sound: http://www.digimix.com/ Rockstar produced the Beaterator which uses server side to compile audio, but be warned this was the only flash app ever to blue screen my PC... http://www.beaterator.com/beaterator.html Brighton Flashcoders have released a nice synthesizer that uses "hacks" http://www.flashbrighton.org/wordpress/?p=9 They also give you the classes to do your own stuff. It is frustrating that Flash AS2 gave us 2 dimensional filters, but nothing to manipulate 1 dimensional sounds. I have added my plea to the feature list for more sound stuff - you should too. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform I would dearly like to see some audio manipulation stuff in the Flash Player, but one possible reason for this could be licensing issues with mp3 - because of software patenting (another can of worms...) I have seen free mp3 codecs get stuffed by the patent holders. I would not be surprised if FP restricted by this, but I am merely hypothesising... Anyway, without hacking, we would not have some of the more interesting stuff that happens today like 3D, crazy audio, video, mashups and some of the amazing stuff that people are doing. I often wish I was half as good as some of the guys on this list, but I am not going to sit around and wait for an official audio API, it probably won't be half as much fun as the stuff happening now, so get your overalls on and get your hands dirty. Glen _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
