I'll say this again: I see no financial benefit to Adobe for keeping the Flash Player the standard for a rich Internet. If HTL5 + JS can do everything - or part of everything - the Flash Player can do. There's no harm done to Adobe by adding a "Export as HTML5" option. We've even seen it demonstrated with the Smart Paste videos.
Illustrator chart connected to live data: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhjLlPegA8I The above + Flash created animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v69S22ZBBqA Adobe makes money by selling the authoring tools, not the Player. ________________________________________ From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ktu [ktu_fl...@cataclysmicrewind.com] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:02 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Oh the irony >From all of this crazy stuff going on the last couple of months, I can't wait to see what happens. apple blatantly bashed Flash. They still offer Flash in their own store (because Adobe products have helped keep apple alive). Their policy changes. the new iad network. the iBad TLF Flash on Android and other smartphones Google's support CS5 Shit is changing, and all I can say is; lets do our part to make it change the way we want it to change. I've never been a huge fan of apple (and their keyboard shortcuts just don't make sense). The more of this type of information to fuel the conflict will only cause more change. Keep finding the good stuff. Ktu (sorry for my troll comment earlier) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Matt S. <mattsp...@gmail.com> wrote: > that being said, I just looked at it from a different computer and it > was using <video> so I'll just go ahead and put the mud on my own face > ;) . Apparently on the previous computer it rolled back to Quicktime > for some reason. > > .m > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Matt S. <mattsp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Kerry Thompson <al...@cyberiantiger.biz> > wrote: > >> I don't see anything ironic about using QuickTime. It's one of Apple's > >> big success stories. > >> > >> I can kind of see them pushing HTML5 over Flash, for business reasons. > >> But why would they want to use HTML5 over their own product? > > > > Of course you're right, *IF* you acknowledge that Steve Jobs' recent > > decisions have primarily been based on cold hard business > > calculations, which most of us do. But that's not the argument *he*, > > or other anti-Flashers are making. You hear all the time that the > > problem with Flash is that, as a plug-in, it exists outside the stack, > > in its own isolated box, whereas HTML5 is standards compliant and > > completely open and exists as part of the natural code flow. That is > > certainly true to a large extent, but the exact same thing can be said > > of Quicktime. > > > > Secondly, Jobs has made a very specific distinction between the iPhone > > vs the browser. While acknowledging that the iPhone is obviously a > > closed garden, he has said that when it comes to the *browser*, Apple > > is all about open, non-proprietary, standards compliant, HTML5, etc > > etc. And clearly, Quicktime is just as closed and proprietary as > > Flash, if not more so. > > > > Thirdly, I dont need to tell anyone here just how central the <video> > > tag has been in the whole debate. How often do you hear people saying > > that with the <video> tag, Flash is dead, completely ignoring > > everything else Flash does? If ever there was a proof of concept where > > Jobs & Co. should be putting their money where their mouth is, video > > is it. Especially since this video isnt DRM or in need of any other of > > the more advanced features that HTML5 can't handle yet. > > > > .m > > > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
