If it helps, a monthly release seems to be the sweet spot for fwupd, from a "writing release notes" and "getting fixes into users hands" point of view. There's no point having a "no regressions" rule as this is software, and even the most benign of changes can have some unknown side effect -- it's much better to just make releases "cheap" and do lots of them. In fwupd the main branch is always "releasable" so if we have a high-priority fix or security issue we just merge, write release notes, tag, push outside the usual release cadence.
Richard On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 at 12:24, Edward O'Callaghan <quasi...@google.com> wrote: > > I very much like Richard's pragmatic approach here. > > It would be my view that we should re-evaluate branch critical bugs (sb600spi > map issue + build system stuff are the two the most prominent in my mind at > the moment) and just cut a release branch, stabilise that with some > cherry-picks of any residue items. Forge forwards from that with a more > regular cadence exactly how Richard suggests. If some critical issue comes up > we can do a point release. > > Kindest regards, > Edward. > > > On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 at 20:27, Richard Hughes <hughsi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Perhaps a way forward would be to tag a rc release, ask distributors >> to package and test it (e.g. pushing to Fedora Rawhide, but not Fedora >> 36), and then push the actual official release a week or two later? >> >> Certainly aiming to do releases monthly is much healthier than doing >> releases every few years. I think it's much more achievable to set the >> expectation to the end user "sorry for the regression! it'll be fixed >> in your distro in ~3 weeks, in the meantime use the previous release" >> than trying to squash every bug and add all the features before >> tagging a mythical beautiful bug-free "feature complete" release. >> >> Richard. >> >> On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 at 10:19, Nico Huber <nic...@gmx.de> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Anastasia, >> > >> > On 16.10.22 23:41, Anastasia Klimchuk wrote: >> > > Nico what was the goal why you started this thread? >> > >> > I wanted to evaluate how immediate a release is. Also, maybe >> > subconsciously (on my end), to raise awareness among developers >> > that we want to do releases. >> > >> > I learned some new things between my first two emails, overall >> > that has changed my intentions to raising awareness. >> > >> > > >> > > I thought for a moment, you have a *quick* question. So I answered. >> > > Now you seem to be unhappy to learn that we are closer to the release >> > > than 1/2 yr ago. >> > >> > It seems hard to assess to me. I want to make sure that we don't >> > miss anything. For instance, the progress in the tickets: A lot >> > have been closed. But some of them look like they were low-hanging >> > fruits, i.e. easy to fix. While bigger issues remain and at least >> > one new issue popped up, as you mentioned. I find it very hard to >> > measure. >> > >> > > You are saying "But I don't believe you", what was the point of asking >> > > then? >> > >> > I did not say that nor did I intend to make it look like this. I still >> > feel misunderstood and that we are talking past each other. I didn't >> > mean to ask "how many tickets are open" or "what was merged". These are >> > things that are easily visible. I guess what I really want to know is >> > "did the regression rate decline?", "does it look like the review >> > process changed enough so that it could?". >> > >> > Nico >> > >> > PS. Anastasia, there is a lot of "you, you, you" in your email. This >> > can get very emotional. I don't see a need to get personal nor to fight. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > flashrom mailing list -- flashrom@flashrom.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to flashrom-le...@flashrom.org >> _______________________________________________ >> flashrom mailing list -- flashrom@flashrom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to flashrom-le...@flashrom.org _______________________________________________ flashrom mailing list -- flashrom@flashrom.org To unsubscribe send an email to flashrom-le...@flashrom.org
