Good Day,

> We have the friendliness document
> which serves as a sort of Code of Conduct.

It does not serve though.
Code of conduct is meant to protect members of the community from
unacceptable behavior, and Friendliness failed to do that.

Friendliness doc definitely has lots of potential and can be upgraded
to code of conduct. But this needs more work, which means more time.
>From your posts, my understanding is that you would like a discussion
on the mailing list. Don't know if you count this thread as it, or
perhaps you consider creating another one - but either way, some more
time for discussion.

> Why would we use coreboot's code of conduct as interim solution?
> You are proposing to establish a new foreign rule immediately (quoting
> your mail: "today")

Foreign? coreboot is foreign? You can't be serious! :) All of the
servers and infrastructure are coreboot's. This mailing list we are
talking right now, Gerrit, both old and new websites, etc etc, all
hosted on coreboot's servers. There are no "flashrom servers''. And
the majority of the people in the community overlap.

and oh, "today" meant "when patch is merged", not an exact date.

Yes, I would like to have an interim solution while we get to the full
solution, because having no solution at all is not great.

If it helps you: migrating Friendliness as is to the new website was
my first idea, and I started looking at it. I got to my computer with
the goal to create a patch to migrate friendliness. But when I
inspected the page closely, I realised there are lots of things to do
and it's not that trivial. Especially if the goal is to upgrade it to
be code of conduct. So instead I created a patch with what you called
"interim solution", which probably is an interim solution indeed, and
put a commit message explaining that.

>  I experience strong cognitive dissonance when matching
> your surely positive intentions with your actions. Please help me
> understand you.

Yes sure I can help!
Yeah, there was no link to the old website. I just added it and sent a
patch. I even recall at some point thinking "we need a link to wiki on
the menu" but I guess I wasn't on the computer at that time and by the
time I got to it I forgot :D

Oh actually I noticed you have an eagle eye for the new website. This
is very useful! I already fixed a few things that you shared on the
mailing list: like a broken contact link in readme and link to wiki.
But, absolutely don't hesitate to send a patch if you notice something
to fix. That would be very helpful.
https://www.flashrom.org/how_to_add_docs.html

> Because I started them. I would have expected you as a project leader to
> start those mailing list threads with a subject including "code of
> conduct" or similar.

A reminder: you learned about what is happening from the mailing list.
>From *my* post on this mailing list ;) That's the whole point of
sending meeting notes to the mailing list: everyone can read, everyone
who is interested can react.

Of course you can create new threads! You are welcome to create new
threads, with any important topics.

> I think the gerrit code review platform is the wrong
> place to discuss non-code policy.

I assume by saying "discuss" you mean people reacting and
posting/commenting. I see in the gerrit patch there are 6 people
actually discussing (adding comments). In the mailing list, it's just
us two talking.
As for reading: everyone can do reading, all the 389 subscribers are
reading. And I posted the gerrit link twice, for anyone interested. In
Gerrit: you can read all comments without even an account in gerrit.
Even our parents and kids can read those comments. And maybe they do
it right now :)

-- 
Anastasia.
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