Bertrand sent out an initial email with the subject "Do we want a flex-users 
list now, and who volunteers to moderate it?" [1]. This was a follow up of the 
subject "IRC Channel link on website?" [2].

In a subsequent follow up, Bertrand clarified his statement to read as follows: 
"...if some (say at least 3) PPMC members think it's a good idea to have a 
users mailing list now, and agree to moderate it, I'd say let's create it." [3]

Bertrand, if you disagree after all the emails being thrown around yesterday, 
I'll let this rest. So please chime in here if you can.

There are a few strong reasons I feel this list should be created now. I will 
list them out here.

1.       Users can subscribe to the flex-users list so they don't have to 
shuffle through the slew of emails being generated on the flex-dev list.

a.       We can then post to the list when the first release is done, and those 
users will be notified via the list.

b.      Users can suggest features there for now, or have conversations of 
their own on the future of Apache Flex without being mingled into our 
discussions and productivity of moving things forward. Of course, discussions 
on features or anything we think will be done with the project will have to 
have further discussions on the flex-dev list with the idea that "if it doesn't 
happen here, it didn't happen".

2.       I think everyone has agreed that we will eventually need this list 
anyhow. What's the harm in creating it now if the volunteer moderators are 
willing to accept the responsibility to make sure important conversations don't 
happen there, and that help for Adobe Flex is redirected to the appropriate 
resources rather than being discussed on the flex-users list. [4]

3.       Having this user list now will help create that community for when the 
release is made available.


Again, to clarify, the moderators would be responsible for making sure 
discussions that belong on the flex-dev list find their way there. Part of the 
arguments from yesterday where surrounding the discussion on "Best Coding 
Practices". It's very strong that the consensus from the community is to NOT 
have that discussion on the flex-users list, and I completely agree. That 
discussion belongs here on the flex-dev list. I don't want that discussion to 
sway this discussion in any way. Please keep that discussion separate from the 
need of creating the flex-users list, they are completely different topics, 
keep it that way - I'll shut up about that now.

I expect this list to be low volume initially. It'll be a good low volume 
channel that users can subscribe to so they can stay in the loop of the 
progress of the Apache Flex project, without having to be bombarded by emails 
that are pointless to them, and then getting lost in all the shuffle. If the 
list grows, moderator's that volunteer will be responsible for managing it, let 
those volunteers decide if they responsibility now, or later.

I may have repeated myself in several ways here, I apologize for the long 
email. I just want it to be really clear to the purpose, and I haven't heard 
anyone speak to any of my points yet. So please, I want to hear why or why not 
on whether my ideas or good or bad.

Finally, in the previous thread, there were enough volunteers (unless they want 
to withdraw now?). In addition, is there anyone else willing to volunteer?

1.       Myself

2.       Anne Kathrine Petterøe [5]

3.       Jeffry Houser [6]

[1] http://markmail.org/message/hul5gatl5vlgsxhc
[2] http://markmail.org/message/lobaecgn4q2qvm37
[3][4] http://markmail.org/message/sbuho7p4tcmn4zy6
[5] http://markmail.org/message/pmoaxe7dhe73ekle
[6] http://markmail.org/message/c2hd6qna244tftzr

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