On 7/10/06, João_Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas, > > #1: Disagree: you can fully customize your "preloader" so loading xx% can be > replace with anything else. > The thing is, there's a 2nd "loading" phase, no matter what the preloader looks like.
> #2: I agree with Jeff. > > #3: Our desktops all totally locked to users but Flash Player is deployed > with MS SMS. There are some solutions for software deployment. > true, that's why I think it's great for intranets. We can control the computers. Beyond our building, it's a crap shoot. > #4: If something is missing in a component you can always extend them and add > your own functionality. There are some guys (look in the mxna aggregator) > releasing their components and most of them are open sourced(just like the > SDK). > can you explain better "With Flex, I'm probably going to have to program > something with the timeline." > I'm referring to creating something in Flash. > João Fernandes > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 11-Jul-06 12:05 AM > To: Flex > Subject: Re: Flex vs. Ajax > > We have different experiences with Flex. > > #1 I agree. It's not a whole lot different than annoying splash pages. > > #2: 125K / 244K is the initial load of the application. After that, you > are just passing data back and forth. With a normal web app, you're > passing "the app" back and forth each time. I've heard that many Flex apps > use less bandwidth overall. Is 244K really too much for a modem user when > they are no subsequent loads of anything except data? ( I guess only you > can decide, depending on your situation ) > > #3 You're right; I agree. in some situations Flash 9 is going to be > hindrance, on others it won't matter. > > #4: You can create components in Flex. Even with my limited experience, I > can't fathom creating a Flex app as a single component. What can't you do > in Flex that you would be able to do in Flash? > > At 12:17 PM 7/10/2006, you wrote: > >On 7/9/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > so in Ajax world, what is the perfered defacto method of formatting > > > data to use in Ajax code? Is there one so that any member of my team > > > of developers can quickly modify the code? > > > > From what I've seen, there is no de facto method, but then again, > >there's not a downside to that for me either. Depending on what my > >functions need to do, I'll return whatever data format fits that best. > > 90% of the time I use JSON just because there's no need to parse the > >data and it's a relatively small package. > > > > > > > > > > One point I'd add is dev speed and app size. For a large app that has > > > drag+drop, charting, rich forms, messaging, etc Flex seems to have > > > Ajax beat in dev time. Add to this you really don't need to worry > > > about browser versions that much. > > > >I've been playing around with Flex the past couple of days, I've even > >purchased Flex Builder to use in an upcoming project. I really do > >like it, but I still see some faults. > > > >#1 - The loading screen. When someone goes to a web page, they don't > >want the page to load up just to post another message saying "Loading > >xx%" > > > >#2 - File size. Unless I'm doing something wrong, the file sizes on > >just the lesson projects are relatively huge. 125K for the smallest > >and 244K for the largest. This cuts out dialup people. My deployment > >plans are almost exclusively intranet. > > > >#3 - Flash Player 9.0 required. Yes, I know, Flash is installed on > >97% of all computers. But not Flash 9.0. Also, as with our > >organization, we're starting to lock down users' computers even more > >so that Flash isn't upgradeable by anyone other than a "power user" or > >higher. > > > >#4 - Components. Flex ships with some really neat components, but > >I've already noticed some things that I'd like to have. With > >javascript/AJAX, typically someone has already figured out the need > >and more than likely it's open sourced. With Flex, I'm probably going > >to have to program something with the timeline. Uggh! > > > >-- > >There more than one answer to these questions pointing me in a crooked line. > >And the less I seek my source for some definitive, the closer I am to fine. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:37/messageid:2973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:37 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.37
