More then a sample actually...... We host a "sanitized" version of the entire LifeCoach appliction on our demo server in our data center. Let me check with the guys before I post the information here and make sure they arent tinkering with that machine. Cool?
Do note though, there is no AMF in this app. There is - RSS - XML/HTTP - XML SOAP Web Services Allthough the appliction does demonstrate a *ton* of other functionality like SSO, HTML/Flext integration, Flash/Flex integration, blah blah. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 --- In [email protected], Robert Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave, > > Do you have some kind of example of the app you are > referring to? I'm not being so absurd as to ask if > you could share with the group your app; but mainly > your experience and perhaps any samples you found or > created early on to learn AMF. > > -r > > --- Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ever coded a flex app using web services? I > > have... the overhead in the > > > flash player when grabbing the initial wsdl and > > parsing it is huge... > > > > Yes we have. We did it in LifeCoach which is live > > in production for a > > fortune 50 company and was the MAX award finalist > > last week at MAX. > > I think we have some pretty significant real-world > > experience and > > feedback. > > > > > > > as for gzipping it... you might want to read > > this... > > > > > > > I did. I can tell you our production level > > benchmarking doesnt line > > up with that. When you turn compression on in the > > app in production > > (server class hardware) the difference in > > performance is noticeable > > with the naked eye. Forget timing it to > > mili-seconds. Literally our > > phones rang within an hour asking what happened to > > the app. I'm > > guessing this was JRUN also which is a different > > server, and we use a > > different compressor rather then a J2EE servlet > > filter. So as with > > all benchmarks, your mileage may vary. > > > > > > > http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mchotin/archives/2004/11/enabling_gzip_c.cfm > > > amf is http tunneled as base 64 encoded data... > > > > Which means when it tunnels you effectively *double* > > the size of the > > stream in bytes marshalled. Now you have no control > > over that since > > the packet filtering firewall is in control. As I > > said, I'm an old > > CORBA dork. We used to do this HTTP tunnel there > > too. > > > > > > > > I'm a huge advocate of web services... but not if > > i can use amf... > > amf is > > > easily 2 to 3 times faster. (with INCREDIBLY > > faster load times) > > > > I'm not anti-AMF. I'm not anti-binary protocols, > > and I am *not* an > > web services snob. Heck, its just CORBA with a > > bloated 7bit protocol. > > > > I do however want to point out a few things folks > > havent thought about > > when they make a blanket statement like "binary > > protocols" are > > advantagous. > > > > Its all about education and differing points of view > > ;) > > > > -- > > Dave Wolf > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > > On 10/21/05, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > A few comments. > > > > > > > > > * Binary transport > > > > > > > > So is SOAP when you turn on GZIP compression in > > your container. And I > > > > would argue that binary transmission can be a > > bad thing too. What if > > > > a firewall used on a corporate environment has > > packet filtering turned > > > > on. Does that firewall have an AMF filter and > > did the firewall admin > > > > know what it was? I spent oodles of time working > > in CORBA. IIOP is a > > > > binary protocol and I cant tell you how often we > > bumped intot his > > > > issue in a true distributed application. We > > actually used to tunnel > > > > the IIOP through HTTP a lot to avoid this. > > > > > > > > > * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice > > > > > > > > Not true with GZIP turned on. > > > > > > > > > * Automatic object > > serialization/deserialization > > > > > > > > So does XML web services in Flex. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dave Wolf > > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -abdul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > Behalf Of Dave Wolf > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:29 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF > > solutions that work > > with flex > > > > > > > > > > I do want to know why you're prefering AMF > > over HTTP or WebService. > > > > > > > > > > Just curious on the motivation there. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Dave Wolf > > > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Clint > > Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I should specify that they don't > > need to be open source at > > > > > all they > > > > > > could be 3rd party as well. (More than > > willing to pay for a > > solution) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/21/05, Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone get any open source amf solutions > > to work with flex? > > > > > > > Looking into this due for the most part to > > the lack of amf > > > > > support in the > > > > > > > flex alpha release. I'm also guessing that > > this is what MM will > > > > > release as > > > > > > > the non enterprise version of flex. So I'm > > looking for > > alternatives > > > > > to > > > > > > > webservices and httpservices. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > > > > FAQ: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > > > > Search Archives: > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > Yahoo! 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