Actually we have two of top 5 banks in the US as clients where we are developing RIA's, so yeah I have a pretty good understanding of what its like to develop serious apps for them. <smile>
I've never once in my life pontificated that you should push messy code out. But weighting its cleanliness over functionality higher then on-time delivery is flawed IMHO. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > typo: i meant "messy code" > > On 11/3/05, Aldo Bucchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try delivering meesy code to a bank... it won't get past QA. Some > > customers DO READ the code. Specially when they are buying an open > > license of the application in question, one that will allow them to > > develop upon it. > > > > > > On 11/3/05, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Preach on! > > > > > > Its funny we had some folks on a big Flex project here come in and > > > insist on writing tons of AS because they were "coders". Its amazing > > > what a deadline will do to people. They kicked into MXML as much as > > > possible, wroteAS where they needed procedural control, and never > > > looked back. > > > > > > So many people forget that when compile MXML actually turns into AS. > > > I don't know about you, but I never found the desire to be first > > > cousin to a pre-compiler. > > > > > > Its funny too, how much people want to focus on "clean" and "easy to > > > read". In all my years I've never seen the end user reading the code.... > > > > > > Maintainability is clearly important. Then again, when you cant get > > > version 1 out the door due to poor productivity, there isnt much to > > > maintain is there? > > > > > > <Now where is that dark closet again?/> > > > > > > -- > > > Dave Wolf > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Mink, Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Revisit this after you develop in Flex for about 2 months...you might > > > > find that you made life harder on yourself or that you are having a > > > > harder time making modifications. On the flipside, maybe you'll > > > > disagree with that entirely. > > > > > > > > The bottomline is that if you look @ Flex as a technology, as opposed to > > > > a language, it won't really matter to the developer whether he/she > > > > writes mxml or as. Both approaches represent the same thing in > > > > different ways. Would you want to write a complete native application's > > > > UI in C++? Or would you like to create the forms with the GUI builder > > > > IDE and then interface with those UI objects in C++? > > > > > > > > MXML vs. AS isn't EXACTLY the same as the example just given, but it's > > > > in the same ballpark. Again, do it your way and then revisit. I know I > > > > started with no MXML, and changed pretty quickly, but that's me! > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf Of Daniel Cascais > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:16 PM > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Code-only Flex apps > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your replies Jesse and Joseph, > > > > > > > > I get your points, but to me it seems more appropriate, maybe cleaner, > > > > with AS only. 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