Actually we have two of top 5 banks in the US as clients where we are
developing RIA's, so yeah I have a pretty good understanding of what
its like to develop serious apps for them.  <smile>

I've never once in my life pontificated that you should push messy
code out.  But weighting its cleanliness over functionality higher
then on-time delivery is flawed IMHO.


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--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aldo Bucchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> typo: i meant "messy code"
> 
> On 11/3/05, Aldo Bucchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try delivering meesy code to a bank... it won't get past QA. Some
> > customers DO READ the code. Specially when they are buying an open
> > license of the application in question, one that will allow them to
> > develop upon it.
> >
> >
> > On 11/3/05, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Preach on!
> > >
> > > Its funny we had some folks on a big Flex project here come in and
> > > insist on writing tons of AS because they were "coders".  Its
amazing
> > > what a deadline will do to people.  They kicked into MXML as much as
> > > possible, wroteAS where they needed procedural control, and never
> > > looked back.
> > >
> > > So many people forget that when compile MXML actually turns into AS.
> > > I don't know about you, but I never found the desire to be first
> > > cousin to a pre-compiler.
> > >
> > > Its funny too, how much people want to focus on "clean" and "easy to
> > > read".  In all my years I've never seen the end user reading the
code....
> > >
> > > Maintainability is clearly important.  Then again, when you cant get
> > > version 1 out the door due to poor productivity, there isnt much to
> > > maintain is there?
> > >
> > > <Now where is that dark closet again?/>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave Wolf
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> > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner
> > > http://www.cynergysystems.com
> > >
> > > Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Mink, Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Revisit this after you develop in Flex for about 2
months...you might
> > > > find that you made life harder on yourself or that you are
having a
> > > > harder time making modifications.  On the flipside, maybe you'll
> > > > disagree with that entirely.
> > > >
> > > > The bottomline is that if you look @ Flex as a technology, as
opposed to
> > > > a language, it won't really matter to the developer whether he/she
> > > > writes mxml or as.  Both approaches represent the same thing in
> > > > different ways.  Would you want to write a complete native
application's
> > > > UI in C++?  Or would you like to create the forms with the GUI
builder
> > > > IDE and then interface with those UI objects in C++?
> > > >
> > > > MXML vs. AS isn't EXACTLY the same as the example just given,
but it's
> > > > in the same ballpark.  Again, do it your way and then revisit.
 I know I
> > > > started with no MXML, and changed pretty quickly, but that's me!
> > > >
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> > > > Behalf Of Daniel Cascais
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:16 PM
> > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Code-only Flex apps
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your replies Jesse and Joseph,
> > > >
> > > > I get your points, but to me it seems more appropriate, maybe
cleaner,
> > > > with AS only. I can understand the need for MXML, maybe one of the
> > > > main reasons is to make easier/faster development for people that
> > > > might not have a strong coding background, which increases the
user
> > > > base. But why force it on developers that can handle just as
good or
> > > > maybe better without it (for whatever reason)?
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