AJAX is a name, not really a technology. Flash is a true technology with an incredible reach and user penetration...and now with Flex and Video in FP8, great things are on the horizon _for_everybody_ on an equal palying field.
But you can trust with the awesome video of Flash8, that the threat to people like MS is now bigger than ever with their Smart Client efforts and Avalon. Many of you may not remember a small effort in the late 90's by Microsoft to come out with a Vector product that was ActiveX based and it was just terrible (I mean a great example of what they are truly capable of when they don't have leverage)...I'm sure Avalon came from that failure and the "hope" has always been there of overcoming Flash, but I believe is fading now with the video done so well in FP8...and as for WinFS...well, I could go into many pages of where, at least parts of those concepts came from, but I can't :) for now that is. Suffice it to say that every technology from QuickTime, to Suns Java JVM in IE, to Blue Mountain eCards not working in Outlook (search Rick Segal on Blue Mountain v Microsoft), to Real Player, and even way back to DR-DOS has been challenged, not by innovation and quality creativity, but by long-horning an original sling-shot screw-over of a nice little guy at Seattle computer and there's been dominance every since, but with the above technologies; desperation. AJAX _will_ become popular if only for one reason, it's one of the last hopes to help ms battle against Flash usage (I know ms didn't invent Ajax but they do have things going on with Avalon and will use the Ajax opp...can anybody say let's send money to SCO because it's convenient?); because in the long-run Avalon is not just about a new UI, it's about "How do we compete against this quality product?". I'm not saying they won't act diplomatic on the outside, but I'm telling you I know what I've seen both in my research and in other docs, and they will not let Flash continue doing well w/o a fight and will use their old tricks in the next year or so...mark my word on it... --- Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All that in DHTML :) ... err AJAX... amazing, still > say its got a limited > future... > > > > On 11/4/05, Tariq Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well if your company wants to get serious about > AJAX be prepared to blow > > some serious dough. Because you'll of course want > to boost the productivity > > of your developers by using IDE's, tools, > libaries, out of the box > > components, etc... > > > > E.g the TIBCO Ajax Accelerator/General Interface > starts at $25K. > > > > http://www.tibco.com/mk/2005/ajax.jsp > > > > > > > > Dave Carabetta wrote: > > > > On 11/3/05, Aldo Bucchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks Daniel, Dave > > > > Dave, it might be in alpha, but it is still > excelent leverage that can > > be used today. If a big client goes for an > expensive Ajax framework > > for all 2006 then good bye to selling flex for a > whole year. I don't > > want that to happen. > > > > I certainly understand that, but it's kind of > tough to do a price > > comparison, in my opinion. Flex is, to an extent, > a shrink-wrapped > > product with a known price tag. AJAX products > aren't the result of > > using a product that has a price tag -- the true > cost is in the > > development/debugging hours. Sure, there are AJAX > libraries that > > certainly help out, but it's not really the same. > Scott Barnes has > > some excellent blog entries (www.mossyblog.com > <http://www.mossyblog.com>, specifically > > http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/454.cfm) with > some AJAX/DHTML vs. > > Flex development anecdotes, which I personally > feel are more > > indicative of the true "cost" rather than looking > at price tags. > > > > Regards, > > Dave. > > > > > > > > -- > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > FAQ: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > Search Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! 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