I hear you, but I haven't had time to think through your use case enough
to convince myself that there isn't any way that by writing a FP8 facade
that you couldn't do the multiplexing you need on the other side of the
wall.  You might be right.  Not arguing on that basis.  (Well, actually,
you could probably implement a TCP/IP stack using the existence/absence
of a hidden child graphic on the visual stack as your communications
mechanism, so I am ever-so-slightly arguing that I bet there's a
workaround, even if its gross.)

I suspect that one of the big issues with supporting your request is
simply that the current cross-VM communications might allow one to
circumvent aspects of VM security.  It might not, but fundamentally
unless we can find the manpower to test it (and the testing matrix here
is HUGE), its a question mark, and we can't ship with an open security
question mark, because they bite you later. 

All features need to go through a full security audit, and need to be
specced out such that we believe they will remain stable.  Having
anything indeterminate or flaky or with odd side effects is simply
unacceptable, because we have an obligation to never, ever break old
SWFs.  There's no such thing as "temporary".

Given a choice between features and stability, we have to choose
stability.

-rg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Berkovitz
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] embed a movieclip
> 
> Roger,
> 
> I just want to point out again that LocalConnection doesn't quite cut 
> it, because it means you have to pass some sort of unique 
> connection ID 
> into an FP8 movie in order to distinguish it from other 
> loaded instances 
> of the same movie.  The only sanctioned way to do this is via a URL 
> parameter, which defeats browser caching.  So we'd wind up 
> performing a 
> separate HTTP request for every loaded instance of the same 
> FP8 movie. 
> That's not going to work.  And using a proxy just squeezes 
> the caching 
> problem into a different part of the balloon.
> 
> This may sound a bit pedantic, but it's not an arcane use 
> case -- it's a 
> serious problem that will hold us back from launching on Flex 2 until 
> Flash plays catch-up.
> 
> It's not about falling in love with the limited getter/setter 
> communication into FP8 movies.  There's nothing much there to 
> love; it 
> looks to me like a false start at AVM interop that was cut 
> off after it 
> ran into trouble.  It's just that a) it does work in its limited way, 
> and b) it provides a way out of the corner that Adobe has painted us 
> into with the Flex/Flash release schedule.  If Adobe can commit to 
> keeping it alive in its current form until Flash 9 comes out, 
> that would 
>   solve a lot of problems.  And it would shut me up.  On this topic, 
> anyway :)
> 
> ... .  .    .       .            j
> 
> 
> Roger Gonzalez wrote:
> > LocalConnection, probably with a FP8-built proxy if you 
> didn't design 
> > the FP8 movie for it ahead of time.
> >  
> > There are limitations, but its the only safe approach I 
> know of at the 
> > moment.
> >  
> > -rg
> > 
> >     
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >     *From:* [email protected]
> >     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
> *Jason Y. Kwong
> >     *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:54 PM
> >     *To:* [email protected]
> >     *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] embed a movieclip
> > 
> >     No, no love here.  However, it does bring up the 
> question: What are
> >     our options if we want to be able to script a Flash 8 
> swf inside a
> >     Flex2 app? 
> > 
> >     On 2/9/06, *Roger Gonzalez* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > 
> >         Um, so don't fall in love with any of this.
> >          
> >         Just sayin'.
> >          
> >         -rg
> > 
> > 
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