Thanks Renaun. Concetually this must be true. But DataServices has has some 
cool features
like DS binding with DataGrid - my concern is how to fit such fecilities into 
framework .
 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Renaun Erickson
Sent: Wed 3/15/2006 12:37 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Framework with Flex 2.0



The framework can be used for UI organization as well as the Data
Services.  Its a big assumption stating its designed for RPC
protocols.  Its actually designed for overall application design, the
Command pattern used by Cairngorm specifically compliments/facilitates
RPC, internal application messages, FES etc... 

When the application is a simple facade over the data services there
might not be a need to use a framework.  But most applications have to
handle UI, Model, Commands(event flow), etc... and Cairngorm provides
a nice strucutre to handle the whole enchilada or just parts of it. 

FES is just part of the an application and might get you all the
implementation needed for handling the Model requirements of the
application.

Renaun

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Venu Vasireddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> I assume Cairngorm framework is designed having FLEX RPC protocols
> in mind - in perticular Remote object - how to sync value objects on
client and server.
> 
> If we use FLEX 2.0 Dataservices, how does this Framework helps?
> Perhaps newer version of Cairngorm may better address  this -
guleing data services with client state better.
> 
>
> ________________________________
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> Sent: Wed 3/15/2006 11:57 AM
> To: Venu Vasireddy; flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [flexcoders] RE: Cairngorm Framework with Flex 2.0
>
>
>
> It is very much still a relevant and useful framework. You don't
necessarily need to use Cairngorm with FES but I have on a few
occasions. You should consider Cairngorm and FES 2 different animals.
Cairngorm is a good framework for application development and FES is a
great framework for performing a multitude of Enterprise Messaging and
Data Services. Check here for the latest version of Cairngorm...
>
> 
>
> http://www.richinternetapps.com/archives/000143.html
>
> 
>
> Someone will correct me if there is a newer version out there...
>
> 
>
> Also, you can google "Cairngorm", there are some good article on the
design patterns and how to implement it properly.
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> Brian
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> Hi Brian,
>
> 
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> Is this still a relevant useful frame work - with Flex 2.0 ?
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> Does FES 2.0  has any inbuilt or recommended framework ?
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> What is the current status of Cairngorm Framework?
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> -Venu
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> Sure, what is the question?
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> Hi ,
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> Anybody using Cairngorm Framework with Flex 2.0?
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> In perticular with FES data services?
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