Dimitrios, thank you for quick reply, but please don't post reply if
you are not in context. It's a question about architecture and i'm
wondering why you are asking for a screenshot? I'll try to clarify my
question
I have
1. 2 different set of delegates (different classes)
2. 2 different data instances (the same data class)
3. 2 instances of ONE view (the same class) that support 2 modes.
I have to see in THE SAME TIME one instance of view with one set of
data (received by the first set of delegates - my guestbook messages)
and another with second set of data (received by the second set of
delegates - my friend guestbook messages).
And probably i'll have a possibility to see 3 or X guestbooks in the
same screen (depends on UI team solution - i don't care about UI)
eachone with another set of data (different people guestbooks).

Waiting for reply.

--- In [email protected], "Dimitrios Gianninas" <dimitrios.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe if you can provide some sample code or a screenshot of
what
> these two views look like would help. Is it that the two views are
going
> to update the data in two different fashions?

> Dimitrios Gianninas
> RIA Developer
> Optimal Payments Inc.

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> ________________________________
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of maxym.hryniv
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 8:04 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm microarchitecture. 2 instances
of
> view with different data.
>
>
> True, You don't understand my problem.
> I have
> 1. 2 different set of delegates (different classes)
> 2. 2 different data instances (the same data class)
> 3. 2 instances of ONE view that support 2 modes.
> I have to see in THE SAME TIME one instance of view with one set of
> data and another with second set of data.
>
> Waiting for reply.
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dimitrios Gianninas" <dimitrios.
> gianninas@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Unless I don't fully understand your problem, the solution is
> simple.  You don't need to create 2 different models for the same
> data. You create the variable to hold your data on the ModelLocator
> (ex.: ModelLocator.messages) and then bind this variables to
controls
> on our 2 views. First part done.
> >
> > Now, when the owner logs in, you will get his messages and assign
> them to this variable, OR when a visitor logs in, you do exactly the
> same thing. You don't need 2 FrontControllers, always use one.
> >
> > I think your question has more to do with controlling what a
visitor
> can do as opposed to a owner, which has more power. Yes?
> >
> > Dimitrios Gianninas
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] on behalf of maxym.hryniv
> > Sent: Mon 5/15/2006 3:29 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm microarchitecture. 2 instances
> of view with different data.
> > 
> > Thanx for reply Tim, but you didnt't understand my question.
> > If i bind "the same value object (data) to more than one
> > view(component)" i'll have the same information in both views, but
i
> > must have different information.
> > "Before you change the view state, you dispatch the getMessages
> event
> > (to return messages based on the user's role)" - It's called
> HARDCODE
> > and it's unacceptable.
> > And i have to display different information at the same time in
> > different instances of one view thats why your suggestion will not
> > work. However thank you.
> > Btw i have different delegates for different states cause of
server
> > side architecture. It's another one reason why it will not work.
> >
> > Waiting for reply.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Tim Hoff" <TimHoff@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, there are certainly more qualified people on this list
> > (especially
> > > the creators of Cairngorm) that could give you some sage advice.

> > But
> > > let me throw out a couple of ideas and try to help you.  It's a
> > little
> > > difficult to know what your use-case is exactly without seeing
the
> > code,
> > > but here is a simple scenario.  There are two things to keep in
> > mind.
> > > In Cairngorm, there is only one control class; the
> FrontController.
> > > Also, you shouldn't need to maintain two sets of data in the
> > > ModelLocator.  You can bind the same value object (data) to more
> > than
> > > one view (component).  For example, let's say that you have:
> > >
> > > 2 views - visitorView and ownerView (view)
> > > 3 events - getMessages, insertMessage, updateMessage (control -
> > > FrontController)
> > > 3 commands - getMessagesCommand, insertMessageCommand,
> > > updateMessageCommand (commands)
> > > 3 delegates - getMessagesDelegate, insertMessageDelegate,
> > > updateMessageDelegate (business)
> > > 2 valueObjects - messageVO, selectedMessage (vo and model -
> > > ModelLocator)
> > >
> > > The views dictate which user gestures (events) are allowed to be
> > > dispatched; based on the role of the user (vistor or owner)  For
> > > instance, both views allow the user to read messages
(getMessages)
> > and
> > > post messages (insertMessage).  While only the owner view allows
> the
> > > user to edit messages (editMessage).  Before you change the view
> > state,
> > > you dispatch the getMessages event (to return messages based on
> the
> > > user's role).  The event causes the getMessagesCommand to
execute,
> > which
> > > in turn instantiates the getMessagesDelegate class.  The result
> from
> > the
> > > service call is then cast to the messageVO, which resides in the
> > > modelLocator.  The messageVO can then be bound to both views,
> since
> > they
> > > both allow the user to read messages.  Even though the VO is
bound
> > to
> > > both views, the user will only see the view that is associated
> with
> > > their role.  The same scenario can be used for posting messages,
> > because
> > > it is a common user gesture for both views.  For the gestures
that
> > are
> > > unique to a view, like editing a message in the ownerView, you
> would
> > > only dispatch the appropriate event (updateMessage) that is
> allowed
> > for
> > > the user's role.  Simply stated, the ownerView would have an
edit
> > button
> > > and the visitor view wouldn't  I know that this isn't your exact
> > > use-case, but hopefully it will give you some ideas.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tim Hoff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "maxym.hryniv" <mokus@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hy, coders.
> > > > I have a question:
> > > > We are creating social network portal. Any user of our network
> > must
> > > > have a possibility to create his own guestbook.
> > > > I have questbook control that supports 2 states: Owner and
> visitor
> > > > (created using viewstates mechanism). In owner mode you have
> full
> > > > control of your guestbook and in visitor mode you can only
post
> > > > messages. When you open your own blog it uses one set of
server
> > > > Delegates and when you open another person blog it uses
another
> > set.
> > > > If i use standart cairngorm approach i have to create 2
> different
> > sets
> > > > of data in ModelLocator for owner view and for visitor view
and
> > then i
> > > > have to create 2 different control classes. Can someone
suggest
> me
> > how
> > > > to resolve this problem, cause i want to use the same control
> > class.
> > > > I'll probably have superuser mode, and i don't want to make a
> > > > copy&paste.
> > > > Btw it's all about flex 1.5, Cairngorm 0.99.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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