RE: [flexcoders] What is the difference between versions of Flex Data Services

Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:19:26 -0700

IMHO . . . .
 
It is not a matter of a server being able to handle more than 100 simultaneous connections.
 
As many on this forum have said, it depends on the application.
 
It is more likely a product pricing decision by Adobe.
 
However, if you as a developer and through testing determine you need 150 simultaneous
connections, for now you must purchase the $ 20K enterprise version.  And that is still
on only 1 CPU.
 
Seems to me that a tiered pricing plan would make more sense.  There is a big difference
between $6K and $ 20K, especially if your need is only slightly above the 100 user limit.
 
Maybe for another $ 2,000 you can get an additional 100 users, so now you have a 200
user limit.  And so on and so on.
 
I would think Adobe would make a lot more sales this way as opposed to $ 6K and $ 20K.
 
It seems that Adobe is hung-up on PER CPU.  I guess that is the nature of enterprise server
platforms.  But gee . . . .
 
Question:  What do you guys think?  Would you rather pay per CPU or blocks of simultaneous
connections?
 
Again . . . . my .02.
 
Jack

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Chotin
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] What is the difference between versions of Flex Data Services

I think we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it J

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ Dekayd Media Inc.
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:25 AM
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Is this going to hold true as processors continue to get faster or will Adobe change their licensing model?

For instance, IBM just made a chip that will run at 350GHz at room temperature.

It seems like that might be able to handle more then 100 connections.

--Kelly

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Chotin
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] What is the difference between versions of Flex Data Services

A departmental server often needs a server for testing and perhaps one other server for failover.  We want you to be able to support this configuration so we have an option of $6k/cpu but no matter how many CPUs you have you cannot have more than 100 concurrent users.

For enterprise you pay per CPU and your configuration can be whatever you please with as many users as you can handle.

HTH,

Matt

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:05 PM
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So you think you *can* cluster the 6k version of the product but they
only allow you 100 users?

Does that mean that for 20k the enterprise version gives you unlimited
users over an unlimited number of CPU's? I bet this isnt so. So I am
still confused as to what the difference between the 6k and the free
product is.

Hank

On 6/28/06, Dirk Eismann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ramuschkat.de> wrote:
> The free one has no concurrent user limit - it's all up to your 1 CPU
> and how much it can handle.
>
> If you run a beefy app (not just using proxying but Data Management
> Services and Messaging etc.) then I bet it will die before you reach the
> 100 :)
>
> Dirk.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of hank williams
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:54 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com
> > Subject: [flexcoders] What is the difference between versions
> > of Flex Data Services
> >
> > I understand there is a free version of fds, and 6k version,
> > and a 20k version of fds.
> >
> > But I cant find any detailed info about this on the website.
> >
> > One of the key questions I have is what is the difference
> > between the free version and the 6k version. Supposedly the
> > free version will only allow for one app on one CPU. but as I
> > understand it, the 6k version only allow for 100 users. So
> > does the free one have the same restrictions or not. It
> > sounds like the free one is better than the 6k one, though I
> > am sure thats not the case.
> >
> > Anyway, a detailed description of the value proposition for
> > each version would be very helpful.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Hank
> >
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