On 7/3/06, Richard Kroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hank, > One thing you have to keep in mind is that Flex 2.0 is tailored to web > *applications* instead of to web sites.
This is the rub. I am doing an application, but I am debating as to whether to put the intro stuff into a separate flash app so that the "website" part of my stuff can open more quickly. Most applications still need the website-ish stuff to tell the user why they should care and what the app is. Basically I am wondering whether I really need to go through that extra effort of making a separate thing in order to improve startup performance. I *really* dont want to. I am lazy. And flex would allow me to do that intro so much easier. But if the startup time is really annoying to people I dont want to loose potential users because the startup was too slow. Now that flex is mainstream, I am sure lots of people are dealing with or thinking about similar issues so I just wanted to get peoples thoughts. I'm really hoping people will convince me not to worry about it, but I am open to being convinced that I need to do a two stage site. When a user starts up a typical > application, a 8-10 second delay prior to the application to start up is > not an unusually long delay for startup. Most Flex apps that I've seen > to date are starting up in the 3-5 second range, which I believe is > completely acceptable. I agree that 3-5 seconds is totally ok. I have no idea what the real world experience will be for most people and 8-10 seconds was just a guess based on file size and guesses about the low end of average connection speeds. Regards Hank I'm not saying that people will not use flex to > create websites, but I think that a lot of the power that is offered by > the platform will not be used, and will potentially bloat the file size > of the site (I'm not positive if the flex platform will dynamically > remove unused classes, someone have input?). > > HTH, > Rich Kroll > Application Developer > > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of hank williams > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [flexcoders] app startup / load times > > For the first time since I started playing with flex (a couple of > weeks) I checked out the size of my app, which is currently 477k. > > My app isnt that big, so I presume most of that is just the size of > the framework. I am just wondering what do people think about that in > terms of user start up time. For a user with a 500kbps connection that > is about 8 seconds before the app is loaded. Are people doing loaders > to get things started? is there an accepted strategy for how to deal > with this? > > There was another thread recently about how people shouldnt use flex > for websites and one person provided aesthetic reasons. In my mind, if > there is a reason (and I am not arguing that there is) but if there is > a reason not to use it for websites it would be the file size. 10 > seconds seems like a long time to make someone wait before they see > something. On the other hand perhaps I am underestimating the average > connection speed. > > Anyway, like I said I would just like to get peoples thoughts on this > issue. > > Hank > > > -- > Flexcoders Mailing List > FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

