On 7/3/06, Richard Kroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hank,
> One thing you have to keep in mind is that Flex 2.0 is tailored to web
> *applications* instead of to web sites.

This is the rub. I am doing an application, but I am debating as to
whether to put the intro stuff into a separate flash app so that the
"website" part of my stuff can open more quickly. Most applications
still need the website-ish stuff to tell the user why they should care
and what the app is.

Basically I am wondering whether I really need to go through that
extra effort of making a separate thing in order to improve startup
performance. I *really* dont want to. I am lazy. And flex would allow
me to do that intro so much easier. But if the startup time is really
annoying to people I dont want to loose potential users because the
startup was too slow.

Now that flex is mainstream, I am sure lots of people are dealing with
or thinking about similar issues so I just wanted to get peoples
thoughts. I'm really hoping people will convince me not to worry about
it, but I am open to being convinced that I need to do a two stage
site.


 When a user starts up a typical
> application, a 8-10 second delay prior to the application to start up is
> not an unusually long delay for startup.  Most Flex apps that I've seen
> to date are starting up in the 3-5 second range, which I believe is
> completely acceptable.

I agree that 3-5 seconds is totally ok. I have no idea what the real
world experience will be for most people and 8-10 seconds was just a
guess based on file size and guesses about the low end of average
connection speeds.

Regards
Hank

I'm not saying that people will not use flex to
> create websites, but I think that a lot of the power that is offered by
> the platform will not be used, and will potentially bloat the file size
> of the site (I'm not positive if the flex platform will dynamically
> remove unused classes, someone have input?).
>


> HTH,
> Rich Kroll
> Application Developer
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of hank williams
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [flexcoders] app startup / load times
>
> For the first time since I started playing with flex (a couple of
> weeks) I checked out the size of my app, which is currently 477k.
>
> My app isnt that big, so I presume most of that is just the size of
> the framework. I am just wondering what do people think about that in
> terms of user start up time. For a user with a 500kbps connection that
> is about 8 seconds before the app is loaded. Are people doing loaders
> to get things started? is there an accepted strategy for how to deal
> with this?
>
> There was another thread recently about how people shouldnt use flex
> for websites and one person provided aesthetic reasons. In my mind, if
> there is a reason (and I am not arguing that there is) but if there is
> a reason not to use it for websites it would be the file size. 10
> seconds seems like a long time to make someone wait before they see
> something. On the other hand perhaps I am underestimating the average
> connection speed.
>
> Anyway, like I said I would just like to get peoples thoughts on this
> issue.
>
> Hank
>
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