Re: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs

Rob Rusher Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:30:50 -0700

RemoteObject is certainly there and only requires a remoting gateway.
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/mx/rpc/remoting/mxml/RemoteObject.html

You can use Flash Remoting or the Flash Gateway in CFMX or OpenAMF. I have not used OpenAMF with the AMF3, so I'm not positive that it works. I remember seeing posting that it does though.

HTH

Regards,
Rob Rusher

On 7/24/06, Battershall, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jessie,

Thanks for the clarification.

What I do not see in the Flex2 docs is the ability to use Remote object
without FDS. Would you have to write your own custom class to do your
remoting calls? I've done such in Flash.

Jeff

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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:02 PM
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Just to be clear, you don't need FDS to use AMF3 & ColdFusion's
ValueObjects, only CF 7.0.2.

I'm with you on price, though. They'll end up paying more in the end as
you
spend copious amounts of time writing ValueObject conversion code, and
debugging string vs. number conversion errors, but it's hard to justify
without someone who can clearly articulate to the client by spending
more
money up front, they'll save money in the end.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:54 PM
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Jessie,

I hear you on this - I've been dealing with the same sort of thing
myself, but I have a client who is looking for the low cost of entry
solution and CF7 upgrade and FDS would appear to be out of the question.
That's excellent that you can set encoding however - that opens things
up for this project.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:46 PM
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Ability to pass custom objects. I've written over 800 lines of code for

Factories to convert CFC structs to ValueObjects in the past 6 months.
It sucks, is a pain in the ass, and it sucks... did I mention I hate
debugging data-type conversions? I'm sure with AMF3's 30-50% reducation
in filesize over the wire vs. AMF0, performance would be better too.

ColdFusion 7.0.2, 4 teh w1n!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Battershall, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs

Jessie,

When you say, "talking to the old sucks from a client-side perspective"
are we talking performance or the ability to pass custom objects or
what?

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:20 PM
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Flex 2 can utilize AMF0 or AMF3; you just set the ObjectEncoding.

CF 7.0.2 can use AMF3; anything before only AMF0.

Flex 2 can talk to both old CF and new CF. Talking to the old sucks
from a client-side perspective.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:08 PM
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OK, gotcha, but I suppose the other issue is what version of AMF is
availble server-side. I'm getting the impression that AMF3 is necessary
both on the client and server in Flex 2.0 - am I right about that?

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:20 AM
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On Monday 24 July 2006 15:02, Battershall, Jeff wrote:
> Obviously, FDS would be a preferred way of integrating with CF if
> available,

Dunno about that.
There is a difference betwen granular record editing, and service
invocation - FDS is better* for the former, remoting for the later.

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Tom Chiverton

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