" In the cases where you cannot use remote objects, web services still work great"
Andrew, do you have any examples when one would not be able to use remote objects? I am interested to know if you have any technical reasons, rather than just economical. Cheers, Mark --- In [email protected], "Andrew Trice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, so I've watching this thread going back and forth over and over... > Now it's time for my two cents. It looks like this thread began by > someone saying that you cannot use web services in a real world flex > application. I've got to agree with Dave on this. You definitely can, > and we have done it numerous times here at Cynergy. > > > > Are there tradeoffs? Yes. As others have said already in the post: > The decision on what mechanism to use should be dealt with on a case by > case basis. Let's consider a few things: > > > > 1. Do the web services already exist and can they handle the > current load? If they do, use them. Why reinvent the wheel? > 2. Yes, there is a performance advantage to using AMF, but most > users will not notice the difference in transport speed... it is > fractions of a second. If your application is properly architected and > your backend is optimized, the end user will never know the difference. > > > > I personally like using remote objects, but not every solution allows > for this. In the cases where you cannot use remote objects, web > services still work great. SOAP is a very verbose protocol, but by no > means is it unusable. If that were the case, why would web services be > so prevalent? Why would there be all the buzz about service oriented > architectures? > > > > If you feel that a web service is too verbose or too slow, and you can't > use remote objects, then use a HTTPService to return XML. There are > many solutions. It really all boils down to how you use and retrieve > your data and depends on your requirements and application architecture. > If the processing time on the server is too much for your application to > handle, then chances are there is a problem with your application's back > end, not the webservice/serialization layer. > > > > To generalize and say that you should never use a web service is a very > big mistake. > > > > -Andy > > _____________________________________ > > Andrew Trice > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > Blog: http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/andrewtrice > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jack Caldwell > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] [flexcoders] Re: Choice of backend > systems - which provides > > > > Martin: > > > > OK . . . . so the lag time is when the data gets back to the end-user? > > > > Bottom line . . . . with all things being equal . . . . > > > > Does a web service request take longer to process on the server than > > a AMF request? > > > > If the answer is . . . . in general yes, then that can be an issue with > an > > increase in users. > > > > If the answer is . . . . it depends on the data being requested and/or > the > > data format then that seems to suggest that everyone must run tests to > > compare results and then test again based on scaling up. > > > > Is that about right? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Martin Wood > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] [flexcoders] Re: Choice of backend > systems - which provides > > > > Jack Caldwell wrote: > > Dave: > > > > I agree that a 1/3 of a second is not going to be noticed by the > end-user. > > > > However, when you add 100s or 1,000s of users . . . . does that make a > > difference? > > > > I don't know . . . . that's why I am asking. You guys have the > experience. > > It doesn't make any difference as the timings are on the client side, > not the > server. > > There will be some difference in time required to handle requests on the > server > which may be down to the data format but they would have to be > investigated on a > case by case basis. > > martin. > -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
