Bjorn,

THe difficult part with runtime stuff is that I think Flex is compiled
as a SWF when it is first accessed in your container. I wanted
something (I'm guessing through a Java RO) that would return all the
mxml files in a given directory. The hard part is getting Flex to
import them..I tried and tried but I don't know if it's possible.

For transitions, I just have a show and hide effect for each screen
bound to a fade transition. Nothing special.

Brennan

--- In [email protected], "Bjorn Schultheiss"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Brennan,
>  
> I'm hearing you all the way,
> I'm using a similar technique in my AS2 app.
>  
> I wanted to ask, do you have any particular technique for applying
> transitions between screens, and also loading in screens at runtime.
> I know the transitioning aint hard but i can see a few ways of doing it.
>  
> In terms of loading screens at runtime, say for example i was was to
have
> 100+ screens and only load them into the viewstack as they were
required,
> and also remove them?
> I want to create a wizard style scenario, and load each screen as
required.
> With so many alternatives it is unlikely a user will browse all screens,
> therefore why load all into the viewstack on initialization?
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Bjorn Schultheiss
> Senior Flash Developer
> QDC Technologies
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of dreuimar
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm: managing hundred of views
> 
> 
> 
> The technique I use is probably a bit unorthodox.
> 
> I have view stack that holds every screen possible in the application.
> In Cairngorm, each screen that has a helper (based off ViewHelper)
> registers itself. I modified this process to have a BaseHelper class
> that extends ViewHelper, and the helper classes for each view extend
> BaseHelper. Now, in BaseHelper I have each view register itself in a
> collection in the model, along with whether it's a system screen
> (login page, main menu, etc), whether the view has any requirements
> before being switched to or exited from. I do this by having a Screen
> VO with different properties (application title string [for menu at
> top], page title string, whether it's a system screen, and a boolean
> of if it's accessible, which defaults to false.)
> 
> Each view helper implements IEnterExit, an interface that has four
> methods: enter(), exit(), setup() and destruct(). I really only use
> the first three in my application.
> 
> The command that switches state will reference the view that's being
> called by the collection that the BaseHelper registered it's parent
> with. It can then perform any enter or exit logic on the screen being
> entered and the screen being left.
> 
> I also have in the relational database what screens each user is
> permitted to see.
> 
> My applications process is this:
> 
> Application begins, each view registers itself with both the
> ViewLocator and the BaseHelper's collection. Since the login view is
> the first in the stack, it is shown. Upon successful login, the user's
> available screens are filtered through the application's total
> screens, and a final collection of Screen VO objects are put in this
> collection. Each screen the user has accessed to switches the access
> from false to true.
> 
> So to switch screens I have full flexibility in being able to search
> through available screens per user, along with showing certain ones
> (my main menu shows every available screen that isn't a system
> screen.) Switching screens becomes as easy as dispatching a cairngorm
> switch screen event with the screen you want to access, for instance:
> 
> CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent(new
> SwitchScreenEvent("mainmenu"));
> 
> or, if you're like me:
> 
> CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent(new
> SwitchScreenEvent( Constants.MAINMENU ));
> 
> And in the BaseState's registration, it takes the screen's page title
> from that same constants file. So Constants.MAINMENU : String might
> equal "Welcome to the Application's Main Menu", and this is the same
> string being dispatched.
> 
> Sorry if this is incoherent and sloppy.
> 
> Brennan
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
> "bjorn.schultheiss"
> <bjorn.schultheiss@> wrote:
> >
> > True indeed.
> > 
> > But when dealing with 100+ screens, surely not all view related logic
> > can be contained on a traditional Model.
> > I think Cairngorm leave alot of freedom in terms of how you implement
> > the view. DataBinding is an efficient way of updating the view with
> > business logic. But there is still the requirement of using a view
> > framework. The mx framework offers a awesome components and extending
> > the existing viewstack, box, etc, you can achieve good managable code.
> > But i think there are various view specific patterns to use
> > inconjuction with cairngorm.
> > 
> > A key flex advantage in my opinion is that used with cairngorm 2, the
> > difficulty of handling client data has been totally removed. This
> > leaves more time available for enhanced the view and providing Awesome
> > GUI's. I cant wait for Blaze and Robert Penner's AS3 Animation
> > contribution.
> > 
> > My current 100+ View Screen app that i'm working on is in AS2, i would
> > so love to be using AS3 instead.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Bjorn
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
> "Ralf Bokelberg"
> > <ralf.bokelberg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe the provided examples are a little bit misleading, because
they
> > > are too simple. On the other hand, who is able to create an example
> > > with hundreds of views :) But the point is, ModelLocator is just
> > > that, a locator for the model and not the model itself. If you
have a
> > > view or a group of views, which needs multiple properties of your
> > > model, you should create a class for that and add an instance of
this
> > > class to the ModelLocator.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ralf.
> > > 
> > > On 9/11/06, Tim Hoff <TimHoff@> wrote:
> > > > With views, the main thing to keep in mind is directory
> > > > organization. Respectfully, I have a few differing ideas, than
> > > > Steven, when it comes to views. But at Cairngorm's current
> > > > iteration, "all" state == model (local and common). Organize the
> > > > actual view classes in functional directory groups; for easy
> > > > identification. In the ModelLocator, bind the state of the views
> > > > accordingly. With hundreds of views, you will probably want to
> > > > subclass the ModelLocator, into functional groups, to aid in
> > > > organization. Ultimately, it boils down to each application's
> > > > requirements. For me, I just try to keep things as simple and
> > > > maintainable as possible; even when endless local state variables
> > > > tend to clutter and complicate the ModelLocator. I'm calling this
> > > > model happy. :)
> > > >
> > > > -TH
> > > >
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> ups.com, "Bjorn Schultheiss"
> > > > <bjorn.schultheiss@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Question and I hope this thread gets a lot of posts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I don't think that the modelLocator is always
upto the
> > > > job.
> > > > > Don't get me wrong, in a data-driven application this
methodology
> > > > is
> > > > > beautiful,
> > > > > But my feeling is it will not satisfy all requirements.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, say you have about 100 view states that are
loaded in
> > > > and
> > > > > disposed of, at runtime, as required.
> > > > > I don't think the ModelLocator is up to the task.
> > > > > I think possibly a "ViewManager" of sorts is required that
acts as
> > > > a middle
> > > > > tier between the Views and the ModelLocator.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have any concrete classes to show an example of what I
> > > > mean as I
> > > > > haven't developed such a solution as yet.
> > > > > But I am at the beginning of a project that will require such
> > > > consideration.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bjorn Schultheiss
> > > > > Senior Flash Developer
> > > > > QDC Technologies
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > > Behalf Of Diego Guebel
> > > > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 12:07 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> ups.com
> > > > > Subject: [flexcoders] cairngorm: managing hundred of views
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > My questions is theoretical and best practice oriented, I just
> > > > wonder what
> > > > > is the best approach to manage hundreds of views since
> > > > > viewhelper/viewlocator is out of fashion.
> > > > > I was reading previous post but didn't find a good example or
> > > > tutorial.
> > > > > Can anyone put some light on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if some of you receive this post twice, I think the first
> > > > once was
> > > > > moderated.
> > > > > Thanks in advance. Diego.
> > > > >
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