One other thing, the little elves hiding behind the Adobe wish form are 
amazing responsive. When I make a bug / feature request, I usually get a 
verification or clarification email within a few days. Pretty good stuff.




Gordon Smith wrote:
>
> The only thing that annoyed me about Ben's complaint was the hyperbole 
> of his subject line, "Styling in Flex is officially ridiculous". (My 
> own not-so-humble opinion is that Flex's use of CSS styles is pretty 
> cool.)
>
>  
>
> I agree with him that it would be nice if ButtonSkin were more 
> styleable. More importantly, we need to hear about the cases where 
> developers think Flex makes something too difficult, because he's 
> right that it's the only way to get mass adoption. That doesn't mean 
> our team will address every one of them, due to competing priorities 
> and judgments about how many other developers are likely to have the 
> same complaint. (I'm not aware of many requests for borderless buttons 
> before Ben's.) But if we don't know about your pain points, we aren't 
> likely to make them go away.
>
>  
>
> - Gordon
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> *On Behalf Of *ben.clinkinbeard
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:29 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [flexcoders] Re: Styling in Flex is officially ridiculous
>
>  
>
> I must say, I really don't understand how I am being offensive. If you
> took issue with my hypothetical new developer conversation, well, you
> shouldn't. I was merely trying to point out that your solution is a
> complex one, and requiring these types of workarounds does not
> encourage the very important drive towards Flex adoption by new
> developers. I was also very clear to state that I have immense respect
> for Adobe, and did not call them 'teh suck' or anything similar. I am
> trying to draw attention to something that I feel needs to be
> addressed in order to improve the Flex framework.
>
> I think EECOLOR summed up my thoughts pretty well by pointing out that
> lots of other things are done with getStyle() and it sure would have
> been nice to make border one of those things.
>
> Roger, thanks for the XP theme link, I had not seen that before.
>
> Ben
>
> --- In [email protected] 
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, "Michael Schmalle"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > EDIT ::
> >
> > > In a way, the Button does have a borderStyle, it's the button's name
> > property.
> >
> > supposed to be
> >
> > In a way, the ButtonSkin class does have a borderStyle, it's the button
> > skin's name property assigned in the Button class.
> >
> > Peace, Mike
> >
> > On 11/30/06, Michael Schmalle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > the border style
> > >
> > > In a way, the Button does have a borderStyle, it's the button's name
> > > property.
> > >
> > > Back in Flash, they used borderStyle in the Button but, in Flex2
> to they
> > > changed it to switch on the buttons name.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I will write a skin class and put it on my blog. That will
> be my
> > > contribution to the 'new' devs that I 'wasn't' talking to. :)
> > >
> > > PS, I have heard plenty of people bitch about the HaloBorders class to
> > > but, hey unfortunately beginners in ALL of life do not have access
> to those
> > > things experience gives.
> > >
> > > Peace, Mike
> > >
> > > On 11/30/06, EECOLOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have to agree with the dude, that its tough to say something
> like
> > > > that to a new person at flex. However, i was thinking the other
> comments
> > > > were correct, and that if you wanted the the button to look
> something else,
> > > > you'd have to use another skin. However, is you want to change
> the border
> > > > from color, you change the 'borderColor' style, if you want to
> change the
> > > > fill colors, you change 'fillColors'. At the top of
> updateDisplayList within
> > > > the ButtonSkin class you see this code:
> > > >
> > > > // User-defined styles.
> > > > var borderColor:uint = getStyle("borderColor");
> > > > var cornerRadius:Number = getStyle("cornerRadius");
> > > > var fillAlphas:Array = getStyle("fillAlphas");
> > > > var fillColors:Array = getStyle("fillColors");
> > > > StyleManager.getColorNames(fillColors);
> > > > var highlightAlphas:Array = getStyle("highlightAlphas");
> > > > var themeColor:uint = getStyle("themeColor");
> > > >
> > > > It would have been nice indeed to have the border style thingy
> in it.
> > > > Instead of bitching about the fact that Adobe did not put it in
> (we all
> > > > forget something eventually) i'd recommend you to write a class
> that has
> > > > that border style thingy in it and then share it with us so we
> can all use
> > > > that skin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greetz Erik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Teoti Graphix
> > > http://www.teotigraphix.com <http://www.teotigraphix.com>
> > >
> > > Blog - Flex2Components
> > > http://www.flex2components.com <http://www.flex2components.com>
> > >
> > > You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the
> question'.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Teoti Graphix
> > http://www.teotigraphix.com <http://www.teotigraphix.com>
> >
> > Blog - Flex2Components
> > http://www.flex2components.com <http://www.flex2components.com>
> >
> > You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'.
> >
>
>  

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