Hi David
 
While I'm not the original poster and realize (via the other posts on this
thread) that the changes are documented, they aren't immediately available
from where you would expect to find them on the website. For example:
 
http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/
 
The top line says Current English Version: Flex 2.0.1... updaters available
 
Click on the link and wind up at:
 
http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html
 
You get the release notes for 2.0.1 if you click Release Notes under Flex
Builder 2.0.1 but if you click the Flex 2.0.1 SDK Release Notes, you get the
release notes from Flex 2.0 unless somehow the 2.0.1 stuff is interspersed
(but that wasn't evident if it was). So if you clicked on the correct Flex
Builder 2.0.1 link you got what you wanted but one would expect the SDK link
to list out updates to the compilers as well (ie. what changes affect more
then just the Flex Builder such as new components or functionality). 
 
One thing I wanted to know and still can't figure out without installing the
Flex 2.0.1 updater is whether or not the underlying version of Eclipse has
been updated from Eclipse 3.1.2 to 3.2.x. Might not be meaningful to others
but I really need Flex to run well under Eclipse 3.2.x so that I can use
Castillo only plugins with Flex. I'm currently running the 2.0 as a plugin
so that I can use Eclipse 3.2 but then I keep getting exceptions and issues
about can't retrieve labels, thread exceptions when running Flex Debugger
Perspective under Eclipse 3.2 (if anyone out there knows a solution please
let me know). Up until mid December, Subclipse plugin for the newer
Subversion client was only available for Castillo (subclipse 1.0.4 for
Eclipse 3.1 was released in December) so that caused other issues. I still
don't know whether 2.0.1 upgrades Eclipse or not.. I'd love to know that. My
guess is it won't.
 
Second, if one is running Flex Data Services, the same page lists release
notes for Flex Data Services 2.0.1 but I can't seem to find the link to
download the Flex Data Services 2.0.1. Unless they are a). Contained within
the Flex Builder 2.0.1 installer or b) are located somewhere else on the
site. I think I found link last night from some other page to download said
version of the data services but I can't seem to find it today and the link
last night wound up with a broken link page. Not sure if Flex Charting has
similar issues as I believe they install as part of Flex Builder 2 but if so
I'd suggest a link on the update page along with the release notes. One
should never have to search high and low and read between the lines to know
what is included and what isn't and where one should search to find the rest
of the parts one needs to update their install.
 
So while the stuff information and associated files may very well be there
on your site somewhere, the site lacks cohesiveness in presenting the
updaters and information properly. While I didn't start the thread nor do I
necessarily agree fully with the title of the thread, I do see a lack of
cohesiveness to the information presented on the site. 
 
I'd also like to point out that the main Flex Product page doesn't indicate
in any way that an update to Flex has been made available. Depending on my
reason for visiting Adobe's site, I'd be inclined to visit either the
product page or the support site, both should have links to the updaters and
both should be clear that an update has occurred. Currently one only finds
out about the update from the support site.
 
Finally, more in response to those who are saying RTM, I'd say that the
information needs to be posted clearly and in detail outside of the product
documentation when it involves and updater like this. For example, if I'm in
the middle of a major project that might benefit from said new feature but
also could be completed without said new feature and the timeline of the
project is rather "tight". I would want to read enough detailed information
and find it quickly without the need to install the update to determine if
the risk of installing the update is less the the amount of effort to
continue developing without the update (at least for said project). It might
be just a link to a pdf that comprises the pages that were added to the full
documentation: list of changes, and the docs on the new features. The sheer
volume of the documentation for Flex can be overwhelming. 
 
On the subject of the documentation, having only worked with Flex for about
a couple of months in my free time, I still have mixed feelings over its
completeness in terms of at least examples and finding the right stuff
quickly. I've often had to "give up" on the documentation and search the
Internet for examples that meet my particular need. Interestingly enough at
times a Google search pinpoints what I need in the LiveDocs that the
straight search in the documentation failed to find. The other issue I find
is that the examples often utilize the simpliest of cases. An example this
week I wanted an example on using a checkbox within a data grid but not one
of the examples in the datagrid documentation showed doing anything other
then using a datagrid with the standard item renders. A set of examples for
a datagrid (or other components) would be to show the simple example and a
more complex example that exercises the bulk of the functionality: using
different item renderers etc. Often mxml examples will be shown, but a
similar example using ActionScript only is omitted. It took me forever to
figure out how to bind data without using ActionScript vs MXML. 
 
I'm not trying to flame anyone or create a bigger issue but there are some
things about this updater and the documenation and downloads page that can
or could definitely invoke emotions similar to the subject line especially
if someone is in a hurry and wants the information to be there readily at
their fingertips.
 
Sincerely
Mark R. Jonkman


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Mendels
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: and I thought Adobe was a professional
company. Whats going on with the upgrade


Hello,
 
Have you tried the help system?  The new functionality is documented.
 
Regards
David

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