Ely,
I find runtime MXML something that would be invaluable.
It is something that if implemented could make developing in flex a
lot more scaleable and integration with the server end would be a lot
more feasible. (As in doing HTTPRequests where serverside MXML could be
generated through Velocity/JSP and then given back to the ui) A lot of
developers don't know a thing about flex, but can learn basic MXML for
layout or simple scripting and implement basic server side operations.
And if these are kept just as mxml it makes updates in the future
easier. We can then just tell someone (edit the MXML) and you're done,
instead of "download the flex sdk, set your ant build, yada ya" -- some
aren't programmers, but MXML is very easy to learn. It's a lot more
confrontable for a designer/layout guy to tackle.
Anyway, runtime MXML would be something that would majorly increase
scalability and integration with servers - similar to the Apache IIS mod
for JSP, etc - the only problem is that it's just for Apache or IIS.
Some run tomcat, resin, etc. But having it on the client end would
eliminate this problem.
Best, austin
Ely Greenfield wrote:
Austin et. al. --
There are a number of features of MXML that simply can't be replicated
at runtime. Things like script blocks. Other features would be
prohibitively difficult (arbitrary binding expressions, @Embed,
mx:Component, among others). You could reduce MXML to a
runtime-parsable subset, and I know various people have taken various
approaches to this. The more you reduce it, the easier it would be
to replicate...removing repeaters, implicit arrays, default
properties, etc. would get you down to something that could be
implemented in a reasonable amount of time.
I'm curious...how many people would find runtime MXML to be important
to them?
Ely.
*From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*On Behalf Of *Doug McCune
*Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:47 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex cookbook article: Flex2 XML Reader
Can Create UIComponents
Yeah, ummm, my advice would be ignore that article. That's one of the
effects of having an article submission process that allows anyone to
submit anything. I know the cookbook is supposed to be user generated
and reviewed, but anyone from Adobe want to exercise a little
editorial control? I wouldn't mind the hand of god going in there and
selectively removing a little content... sometimes democracy needs a
helping hand.
On 5/17/07, *Daniel Freiman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
I think they're just stating that the mx.modules package exists. The
sentence "We also know Flex2 knows how to read MXML at runtime because
the compiler knows how to convert MXML into GUI Objects" doesn't
inspire confidence that they know what they're talking about. Since
it's possible that they don't know what a compiler does, it's also
possible they're just writing and compiling Modules and don't
understand that they're doing it. Then again, that wouldn't explain
what they're fighting with another company about earlier in the article.
They claim what they're talking about is in the docs so I'd either
search them or not worry about it. My guess is you'd be searching a
long time for something that isn't there. It would be nice if someone
could prove my guess wrong though.
Dan Freiman
nondocs <http://nondocs.blogspot.com>
On 5/17/07, *Austin Kottke* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Hi,
There is an intriguing article in the flex cookbook on the adobe site
about
reading in MXML at runtime and using the XML object to create components
at runtime. While
I don't totally get how this works as there are no code samples, but
very vague actually, but it states:
"Let's consider, for a moment, how Adobe might have chosen to leverage
reuse within the Flex2 programming model.
"Assuming the Adobe engineers did not want to have to recreate the wheel
in terms of how to make Flex2 able to load normal non-GUI XML I would
surmise they chose to simply reuse whatever code they wrote that was
able to read MXML into a way to read XML.
"As we know, MXML resembles XML rather closely. Heck, MXML is XML !
Yipee, now I can easily read MXML because it is essentially a form of XML.
"We also know Flex2 knows how to read MXML at runtime because the
compiler knows how to convert MXML into GUI Objects.
"But what if we could trick Flex2 into dynamically loading MXML at
runtime ?"
So my question, has anyone ever done this and how did they do it? I'm
not talking about using the
modules package to load in precompiled swfs. But loading in mxml and
having it run after being loaded.
Best, Austin
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