And the book says:-) 1. The Web As Platform
Like many important concepts, Web 2.0 doesn't have a hard boundary, but rather, a gravitational core. You can visualize Web 2.0<http://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html#mememap>as a set of principles and practices that tie together a veritable solar system of sites that demonstrate some or all of those principles, at a varying distance from that core. Notice it says Web2.0 is a platform, a set of principles and practices that tie every thing together. And it lists web 1.0 <-> Web 2.0 and the thing is that all those listed is about collaboration of information, in a platform for sharing information. Want to keep arguing it? On 9/28/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ""I really hate it when someone makes a comment like Flex front end is > web 2.0..Web 2.0 is not about RIA, web 2.0 is about collaboration. " > > I disagree. According to the article quoted, "What Is Web 2.0", ( > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html) > written by tim O'Reilly who was part of the same group who claim to have > coined the term "Web 2.0", RIAs, like what Flex/Flash provides, in fact > ARE part of Web 2.0- they just aren't the ONLY component of Web 2.0. > > An excerpt from page 5: > > 7. Rich User Experiences > As early as Pei Wei's Viola browser <http://www.viola.org/> in 1992, the > web was being used to deliver "applets" and other kinds of active content > within the web browser. Java's introduction in 1995 was framed around the > delivery of such applets. JavaScript and then DHTML were introduced as > lightweight ways to provide client side programmability and richer user > experiences. Several years ago, Macromedia coined the term "Rich Internet > Applications" (which has also been picked up by open source Flash competitor > Laszlo Systems) to highlight the capabilities of Flash to deliver not just > multimedia content but also GUI-style application experiences...AJAX is also > a key component of Web 2.0 applications such as Flickr, now part of > Yahoo!.... > > They seem to impy Web 2.0 has several different components (7 or so). > Personally to me that means Web 2.0 is highly ambiguous, since it would > mean it would take in just about every new & popular trend on the web. Maybe > that's OK, I dunno, but not worth arguing about. > > Jason Merrill > Bank of America > GT&O Learning & Leadership Development > eTools & Multimedia Team > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > Behalf Of *Peter Connolly > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:48 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java > > > > > What is Web 2.0, by Tim O'Reilly > <http://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html> > > > > On 9/27/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Oh my god, I really hate it when someone makes a comment like Flex > > front end is web 2.0 > > > > Web 2.0 is not about RIA, web 2.0 is about collaboration. God forbid, > > you even know what Enterprise 2.0 is oh yeah thats MS Silverlight on > > steriods. > > > > > > > > On 9/27/07, gers32 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > First of all, a Flex front-end is Web 2.0 vs. Web 1.0 for JSPs. I > > > recently made the switch from JSP to Flex for that reason. Also, your > > > application will scale better if you put some of the logic inside the > > > Client. > > > > > > If your employer argues that he's invested a lot in Java, that's OK > > > because you can have your Flex front-end talk to Web Services written > > > in Java. > > > > > > As for Bruce Eckel's article, that's exactly the one that convinced me > > > > > > to skip AJAX and go directly from JSP to Flex. It also convinced my > > > boss... > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > www.aegeon.com.au > > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273
