OR you could say: The improvement in developer productivity by upgrading to Flex3 and getting to know the powerful ActionScript 3.0 is well worth
+ The reduced risk of trusting billg, Steven Balder and Mickeysoft once gain after several decades of betrayal while the former Macromedia and also now Adobe and eve moreso Apple have shown integrity toward their developers. I recommend not taking any risk by developing on Windows except to test, and stay with APPLE + ADOBE Jim Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good points from Tracy there. If it saves you only 15 minutes a day, say 5 hours a month and the cost to your company of employing you (wages + a surprising amount of extra cost in admin, office space, insurance etc etc) is roughly $50 an hour then it pays for itself in only 4 weeks (If the upgrade cost is the $250 discussed earlier, you might want to check that). These are not unreasonable estimates at all, it's really a no brainer in terms of cost. It surely can't take more than 8 weeks to repay the cost even if my guesses are out by a factor of two? OK, I'll admit that you might spend 5 hours installing and testing, maybe twice that, but if you look at over, say, a year then you should show some decent savings. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] on behalf of Tracy Spratt Sent: Fri 15/02/2008 23:12 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? The improvement in developer attitude from the speed an stability alone is probably worth the cost. You do not need to maigrate your apps immediately, but can continue to compile them under the 2x sdk. Best of both worlds. Tracy ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simonjpalmer Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? Wait. I can understand your company's reticence. It's normally a pretty empty promise to say that developers productivity will be greatly improved by spending money on a new version of an IDE. Even if it were, that rarely translates into either lower costs, faster development times or higher quality; these things come from the right cultural/social environment/attitudes not the latest versions of the tools. And if you take into consideration the cost of migration of your entire codebase from one version to the next and the associated testing effort, then it is not just about the license fees for the developers. I bet the bean counters are looking at that too. I'm not saying don't do it, and I'm sure Flex 3 is a major step forward, I'm just saying you could easily defer the decision for 6 months until it is actually a released product and has had its first couple of patches. From a commercial standpoint you'll lose nothing by staying put, whereas changing has attendant cost and risk. Of course at some point you'll have to upgrade because Adobe will stop supporting some or all of it, but if things are trundling along nicely and you are being successful in development and sales of your product, then it doesn't hurt to wait for a bit and you'll need to come up with a very rational argument to justify the cost. --- In [email protected] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tracy Spratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FB3 is much faster and more stable/predictable than FB2. The UI is > significantly enhanced. > > Tracy > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Mr Greg Murnock > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:47 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [flexcoders] Why upgrade to FB3? > > > > For the big discussion of the day/week... > > > > I have been given the task to give a "strong case" on why we need to > spend the money (proposed pricing schedule) on the upgrade to FB3, when > available. > > Our company does not look to do AIR apps, we do not have a case to use > Advanced Datagrid, we front CF7 with an Oracle DB (irrelevant) so the > FDS is already there. Current F2 apps with charting working great. > > > > I want to upgrade but need more of a reason, for my [EMAIL PROTECTED] > company - did > I say that outloud, for us to purchase the upgrades. 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