> Here's another challenge to keep people busy: try landing the 172p
> (default aircraft) on 28L (default runway) at KSFO (default airport)
> in the shortest distance possible.  Start with this command line:
> 
>   fgfs --altitude=600 --vc=70 --offset-distance=1

I've got another no-flap method: cut power, slow to 60kt, keep it
there for about 10s, then push full right rudder and keep wings level
(kicking rudder left is not so good because you can't see a
thing). Just before hitting ground, centre rudder and land. This is
the only way I've been able to make a no-flap short landing (333ft on
my most recent attempt) without a tail skid. This is my report:

Touchdown report for NOSE
  Sink rate at contact:  2.4998 fps,    0.8519 mps
  Contact ground speed:  48.0378 knots,  27.6309 mps
  Maximum contact force: 1514.4225 lbs,    6736.1511 Newtons
  Maximum strut travel:  7.6129 inches, 19.3368 cm
  Distance traveled:     238.5186 ft,     81.2872 meters

Touchdown report for LEFT_MAIN
  Sink rate at contact:  1.6258 fps,    0.5541 mps
  Contact ground speed:  52.2234 knots,  30.0384 mps
  Maximum contact force: 2653.9679 lbs,    11804.8494 Newtons
  Maximum strut travel:  1.5462 inches, 3.9275 cm
  Distance traveled:     329.3639 ft,     112.2472 meters

Touchdown report for RIGHT_MAIN
  Sink rate at contact:  1.7856 fps,    0.6085 mps
  Contact ground speed:  52.2898 knots,  30.0766 mps
  Maximum contact force: 2928.6137 lbs,    13026.4739 Newtons
  Maximum strut travel:  1.2614 inches, 3.2039 cm
  Distance traveled:     333.0386 ft,     113.4996 meters

I think it's reasonably gentle at less than 1m/s for each landing
gear. No other part of the plane touched the runway. Remember this is
with no flaps at all, and there is no stall involved.

Slip landings like this are quite fun in a real plane -- I was in the
back seat of a Porsche DR400 when the pilot did one...

  Andras

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