Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> * Jim Wilson -- Monday 24 March 2003 02:35:
> > The P-51D 3d Model has been added to CVS.
> 
> ... and it looks superb! Can't wait to take off with it. And I also find
> it an excellent idea to provide the xcf's. This should make repainting a
> lot easier.
>
> But: shouldn't these Gimp files go to a separate module, something like
> "artwork-devel"? I mean, 5 MB are a lot to download, if you don't plan
> to repaint your planes, or maybe even don't know what strange format
> xfc is. Shouldn't the base package contain runtime stuff only, and no
> graphics development sources?

They are huge and I think it'd be worth offering them.  If we split those off
to another module then it probably should not be an "artwork" tree but more
general "source" tree so that the main base tree contained only what was
required to run or document flight gear.  It might include blender model files
too.

My thought was to see if John could just exclude ".xcf" files in the tarball
generation.

> 
>   $ find -name "*.xcf" -printf "%f\t%s\n"|awk '//{print;x=x+$2}END{print x}'
>   p51d-jw-02.xcf  1079541
>   p51d-jw-03.xcf  1070051
>   p51d-jw-05.xcf  2624465   [sheesh!]

Hey! What do you mean sheesh?  There's a lot of texture in that file. ;-)

>   p51d-jw-man.xcf 78154
>   4852211
>
> Or should we finally really move to a system (as was already discussed
> here), where addons are offered separately. There could be an "addons"
> cvs module, with a "p51d" subdirectory, a "t38" subdirectory, etc.
> One could then still download all the planes conveniently via cvs, and
> distribute a huge addons.tar.gz, and additionally some smaller packages:
> p51d.tar.gz, t38.tar.gz ...
> 

I'm not for moving individual aircraft to another cvs module.  My time with
flightgear is limited and I like to update to the latest of everything without
much trouble.

What we distributed for releases is another story.  Currently the nightly bzip
is 35mb, gzip is 41mb.  If you have the bandwidth, it gets so that the
packages offered in many files are a pain,  unless they're on an ftp server
and you can dl the whole directory.  Smaller files are better for modem users.
 I think it'd make sense to offer it both ways,  but I'm not the one doing the
packaging and it would involve some extra work and disk space :-)

Best,

Jim

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