On Thursday 03 April 2003 16:16, David Megginson wrote:

> Yes, a 150 was simply too small for me -- I paid the extra money to
> train in 172s, but I think that our rates are a bit cheaper over here.

Cost-wise it simply isn't an option open to me.  Also, I'm not sure but I 
think the club reserves their 172's for advanced training only - which would 
be for IMC (I think that's a UK only rating?) and night rating training.  

> I've never had the chance to use a grass runway -- how does it feel as
> you get close to takeoff speed?  We need to start modelling the bumps
> and jolts in FlightGear.

It actually felt OK - far less bumpy than the C206's I've been in on concrete 
runways.  I seem to remember that he held the yoke quite far back early on in 
the take off run.  Would this help? But I might be mistaken...

> Depending on how much your instructor weighs and how much fuel was on
> board, you were probably very close to max gross weight.  The 150/152
> doesn't have a great climb rate, but since its forward speed is also
> slow, it does have an OK climb angle (i.e. it will clear the trees,
> but it takes a long time to reach them).

I'm 210lb and he looked to be around 180 or so I didn't check how much fuel 
showed on the gauges but he did say that the one we were in was modded with 
long range tanks.

> Eventually, my body adjusted to the 172 (since the 172 sure wasn't
> going to adjust to my body); it probably would even have adjusted to
> the 150, given enough time, but I wasn't willing to try.  My biggest
> fear even in the 172 were the cross-country dual flights, where I'd
> have to have a map, navlog, E6B, etc. laid out on my lap in that tiny
> space, but by the time I got to that point I didn't feel so crowded
> any more.

Mmm. Now you've got me thinking of a 152 with one of those car utility boxes 
strapped to the outside accessible through the open window. Instant storage!

> Make sure she gets at least 25-50% of the proceeds for something *she*
> wants (and save a bit of a reserve for the transit passes).

'she' wants to learn to fly a baloon.  That's gotta be expensive...

I'll make just one more post after lesson 2...

Cheers,

Matt.


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