Jon Berndt writes:
>
> > > As for myself I would be very nervous using any altitude
> control system
> > > that didn't return elevator trim to 'neutral'(1) on
> disengagment because
> > > as you say it is a potential killer
>
> Tony wrote:
>
> > Whose to say that neutral trim is better?  And aside from that, there
> > really is no such thing as neutral trim for aircraft that trim with
> > the entire stabilizer.
> >
> > Also there is one real practical problem with "resetting" the trim:
> > trim systems tend to be fairly low rate devices, so returning them to
> > some "safe" position could actually take some time, say 10-20 seconds.
>
>
> Tony is exactly right.  In the F-16, to the best of my recollection, the
> autopilot and trim commands are summed.  This means that when the
> autopilot
> is on, if there has been some trim already put in, the autopilot adds to
> that setting.  If the trim is activated during autopiloted flight, the
> autopilot will correct for that in holding altitude (for instance), so the
> net effect is zero.  If the autopilot is turned off, the trim is NOT
> returned to any neutral setting - it remains the same.  However, there are
> "sumps" (washouts) in the FCS to temper any transients that might be seen.

I don't doubt that you guys are right,  I just am trying to make sure that
we
are talking about the same 'oranges'

In the FGFS AP model we have an elevator control (EC) and an
elevator_trim (ETC) control.  The elevator_trim control is what is
adjusted by the AP in FGFS but I am guessing that there is either
(1) a coupling between the ETC and  EC  or
(2) that the AP on heavy planes controls the directly EC and not the ETC.

But as I have said I could easily be all 'wet'

Cheers

Norman



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