Dave, 

Yes, that's invaluable. You're fast! 8-) That's EXACTLY what I was looking for!

Now if it only said, Alcatraz 2.5 miles @ 255 degrees. Oh, but I can dream 
can't I? 8-) 


You can get prices of sectional charts here, they're about 8 dollars or so 
each. Here's a price list: 
<http://naco.faa.gov/content/naco/pricelists/PriceListNACOAeroOct2004.pdf> 

I buy them at a tiny airport about 10 miles from my house, they charge 
reasonable prices. All my charts are out of date (not for realworld 
navigation), but I will send you the San Francisco one if you email me a snail 
mail address. (Actually, I can't find the San Francisco one, but I have Chicago 
and San Antonio at hand at the moment and will look for San Francisco).

The properties and keybinding idea you suggest does seem like a very good way 
to go.

Thanks again, and please let me know if you need me to look for the SFO chart.

Great my isp isn't quoting right for internet mail: assume the following is 
quoted one more level.

As I'm very visually challenged, a sign in the air over an airport saying
> KJFK 2.5 miles or some such would be a big help finding my way around.
> Identifying particular buildings in the air would be nice too. (Golden Gate
> bridge, Washington Monument, landmarks like large cemetaries and parks).
> I'd love to work on this eventually but that'll probably never happen at
> the rate I'm going. 8-(

Something like this?

     http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/tourist-sign.jpg


> Perhaps something similar could be used to mark restricted airspace.
> Something especially useful would be signs for those features found on vfr
> charts.

That should be easy to do, provided the areas are built by hand, like the 
current buildings and bridges.  They could also be toggled on/off with a key 
binding for airspace marking (seperate from the key binding for city names or 
tourist signs).  It would be interesting to make a terminal control area 
also.  I could do all this, but I would need a sectional, an area to work on 
(SFO area?), and some assurance that I'll get the key bindings and that the 
work won't be for naught.


> Perhaps the signs can be turned on/off with various levels as the log
> messages are?

I think we could use properties for each type of sign, 
i.e. /sim/signs/cities, /sim/signs/tourist, /sim/signs/airspace, etc.  The 
properties could be set "on" at your command line, or startup script, and 
controlled at any time with a key binding.


> Is US government information on public charts
> available for use? How is this 'common knowledge' and US government sources
> impacted by GPL and other licenses?

I believe the data can be found freely in text format, i.e. there is a control 
zone at lat xxx, lon xxx, surface to FLxxx.  This is all we'd need.


Dave

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