On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:26:58 +0000 (UTC), Martin wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

..with Reply-To set to both himself and the list, so I honor it.

> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:29:20 +1000, Pigeon wrote in message 
> 
> >> Currently I'm revising the building process so that it can be fully
> >> automated, 
> > 
> > ..url?  (Yeah I know it's all pre-alpha etc ideas.)
> 
> Arnt, would you please, PLEASE stop permanently annoying people by the
> request of download-URL's ? If I were Pigeon, I wouldn't even THINK of
> posting such an URL on this list because I'd certainly have to fear
> that you'll bomb me with support questions, deliberately crossing the
> line where 'good taste' (TM) ends.

..this was meant as an invitation to share ideas and help make a few
better LiveCD's.

..I have done a few custom Knoppix and Damnsmalllinux live cd's and
Pigeon initially disagreed to make one for AirVenture, so I  decided to
do it myself, even if he beats me to it again.  ;o)  This far we 4
people contributing on "my" KOSH cd.  

..our approaches on the LiveCD's are different to warrant both, he wants
to keep it simple stupid(KISS) for dimwit windroids, I also wanna
attract new developers (say to do EAA planes) adding some tools and
making transition to Debian GNU/Linux, _easy_, and potent, to satisfy
the "Show me!" and "Show us!", with enough authority so they stay with
us.  

..the best way I see doing this, is show the procedures in this years
AirVenture NOTAM in FG scenarios in a new Scenery showing KOSH 
as it is set up during AirVenture, and simply show'em.

> Do you know that people already share a noticeable amount of developer
> information off-list, simply because they're fed up getting annoyed by
> you with requests to explain every single step for stuff that's still
> being worked on - information that _usually_ would show up on such a
> developer list.

..pity.  I apologise, I usually manage to build stuff out of source
code, on TerraGear I assumed _I_ did something wrong, rather than 
assume TerraGear was broken.   

..I'm trying Ralf's Makefiles this weekend and he asked me to give
feedback and I like what I've seen this far, so we'll see this or next
weekend, there's http://energex2006.com/ too on my list.

..chances are I may have learn to use these CXXFLAGS etc to point builds
to specific plib etc installs for TG etc builds, so pointers to learn
this is welcome.

> Please keep in mind that this is still the "FlightGear Developers
> Mailing List", not the "Arnt Karlsen's Private FlightGear Support
> List".

..aye.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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