> The SenecaII wing rock with light turbulence appears to result from a
> very exaggerated adverse aileron yaw.  So I did the same experiment
> with the c172p and pa28-140 which both use the kap140.  With the default
> turbulence, the c172p oscillates so bad that you cannot complete the
> approach with the LOC needle going full stop to full stop near the
> runway.  The pa28-161 (also yasim) is as solid as a rock all the way
> down the glide slope with light to moderate turbulence.
> 
> If you watch the oscillation for either jsbsim model, you should note
> that when the yoke is rotating counter clockwise, the nose is yawing
> right and then finally swings back left, as would be expected with
> extreme adverse aileron yaw.
> 
>  Most high performance AC show very little AAY except in significant
> slow flight.  I would not expect that small aileron deflections should
> move the nose counter to the roll in a SenecaII or pa24.
> 
> Two questions:
> 1.  Have others noticed this difference between jsbsim and yasim?
> 2.  Can this adverse aileron yaw be toned down in jsbsim?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Perry

I have a complete set of stability derivatives for a Seneca-like aircraft in
the car. I'll go grab that and take a look and do a "sanity check" with the
Seneca. Tomorrow is Columbus Day, and I'm off, so maybe I can do this before
tomorrow night.

Jon




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