"Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in part;

>> ... (not that I use it very often) ...

On 12/05/2007 02:59 PM, Syd&Sandy wrote:

> ok that answers my question .... I thought it was more a user option to 
> center joystick , etc...

Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought "5" was a 
mouse-only solution to a mouse-only problem.

I wouldn't expect anybody with a hardware joystick to
have any use for "5".  A HW joystick has springs that
return it to zero force and zero deflection.  Real
aircraft have a readily perceptible zero-force point
as well as a zero-deflection point (not the same).

The joyless mouse lacks all of the above, so having a
key that warps the controls to zero has merit.  It
does not correspond to anything in the real airplane,
but that doesn't bother me, since I consider it an
appropriate solution to an unrealistic problem.

I think everybody agrees that 
 a) joysticks are better than mice, but
 b) we need to support mice.

> But now I'm really curious how a real autopilot system handles this ....

Handles what, exactly?  

There's no support for anything like "5" that I've ever 
heard of in real aircraft.  I'm having a little trouble 
imagining why anybody would want such a thing.  There are 
certification regs concerning stick force, so that any 
certified aircraft is going to do something reasonable 
if you just let go of the stick.

Again it seems the "5" is a non-real-world solution to
a non-real-world problem.

The closest thing I can think of is an AP with the
follow-the-stick feature:  That is, you can establish
a rate of climb and/or a rate of turn with the stick,
and then tell the AP to maintain what you've got.


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