On Sunday 23 December 2007 07:59, Syd&Sandy wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:16:00 -0500
>
> Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Something bad happened to the b1900d FDM in CVS sometime in the
> > last two weeks (since my previous update from CVS).  With the
> > flaps fully extended and the gear down, it's impossible to fly
> > above stall speed unless the aircraft is in a > 20 degree nose
> > down attitude.
> >
> > -c
>
> Yes Ive tried to correct the FDM a bit and should have left it
> alone. I dont do much with it anymore since many others have been
> modifying it. Some parts are difficult to model since the
> turboprop engines aren't complete... There is no prop drag ,
> reverse , and the feathering doesn't seem to work... Also the
> specs show a wing twist of about 5 degrees ... but seems to also
> create too much drag... If you want to attempt to adjust it and
> send me the file , I'd be happy to test it and update ... I
> should mention too that takeoff/approach flap setting is 17
> degrees ... about halfway... Cheers and merry Xmas

I've noticed some funny YASim prop-pitch behaviour and problems 
while working on the TU-114.

The first thing I noticed is that the prop-pitch is normalised and 
this would seem to make it impossible to reverse the pitch for 
reverse-thrust braking.  A possible solution to this might be to 
use the src0, src1, dst0 & dst1 params to widen the range but 
before I got around to trying that I found that fully-fine pitch 
seemed to correspond to a normalised pitch setting of 1.0, with the 
full-coarse/feathered setting corresponding to 0.0, which seems the 
wrong way around.

Secondly, while experimenting with prop-pitch, I set up PID 
controllers for each engine to control the prop-pitch.  The reason 
behind doing this was that the TU-114 operated at two prop rpm 
settings - 840 max/takeoff-rpm and 750 cruise-rpm - and I wanted to 
see the range of prop-pitch values that was required at each of the 
two rpm settings under different flight conditions.

What I found was that for a given prop-rpm setting the prop-pitch 
didn't vary with the flight conditions.  At a prop-rpm setting of 
840 rpm the pitch was clamped to 1.0 and for a prop-rpm setting of 
750 rpm it was clamped at 0.357 but these values didn't change 
according to altitude or speed, which isn't what I would have 
expected.  Having said that, I do see a small variation in the 
prop-pitch while the throttle was actually changing i.e. while the 
aircraft was accelerating or climbing in cruise, but once things 
stabilise again the prop-pitch settles back down to 0.357, 
regardless of the new conditions.

I'm not very familiar with turbo-prop characteristics and operation 
but I would have thought that, for example, if the altitude is kept 
constant but the airspeed is increased the prop-pitch should get 
coarser.

This is only the second time I've used YASim propellers so this 
could be because I've badly mis-configured the propellers but other 
than the prop-pitch anomaly they seem to be performing ok.  I also 
haven't got around to checking the prop-pitch behaviour with piston 
engines yet either.

LeeE

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