Lee

> Sent: 19 March 2008 15:53
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] model-paging patch - testers wanted
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 19 March 2008 14:43, Vivian Meazza wrote:
> > Stefan Seifert
> >
> > > Sent: 19 March 2008 14:40
> > > To: FlightGear developers discussions
> > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] model-paging patch - 
> testers wanted
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 15:16:29 Vivian Meazza wrote:
> > > > I've been testing this patch for some while now. I 
> would strongly 
> > > > recommend anyone who uses multiplayer to use it. There is
> > >
> > > no obvious
> > >
> > > > downside, but as Till said, there is more work to be done.
> > >
> > > It really
> > >
> > > > needs lots of people to give this a good testing, but right
> > >
> > > now it's
> > >
> > > > probably nearly good enough for inclusion in cvs.
> > >
> > > I vote for including it in CVS right away. This is 
> exactly what CVS 
> > > is for: synchronizing sources between developers and keeping a 
> > > history of all changes.
> > >
> > > Pushing around patches manually is exactly what CVS is meant to 
> > > replace. So why not just use it?
> > >
> > > Remember: release early, release often.
> >
> > I nearly said that - and chickened out at the last minute - yes - I 
> > support this.
> >
> > V.
> 
> Heh - I really don't like that phrase.  It may sound 'cool' but to 
> me it's saying 'design by trial and error', which is an oxymoron:)
> 
> I also think it does nothing to encourage quality and is likely to 
> increase the number of bugs that will be encountered by people who 
> are trying to use the s/w, or who are trying to develop for it.
> 
> All in all, I regard it as a bit of a cop-out by developers who are 
> too lazy to thoroughly think things through and, with regard to 
> commercial s/w, a method of extorting money for faulty goods.
> 
> It certainly doesn't encourage confidence that the s/w will work and 
> as FG isn't just an academic exercise in s/w development - a lot of 
> people and groups are using it for a very wide range of purposes - 
> I can't agree that it's a good idea.
> 
> Sure - new features and developments have to be beta-tested in a 
> wider environment, and cvs is right for that, but not for alpha 
> testing.
> 
> Just a personal view:)
> 

OK, Lee - yes, no alpha testing. In this particular case the patch is well
into beta. The alpha testing was done by me and others. I hope that you will
test it.

And as a carrot, the quicker this is done, the quicker we can move on to
getting the other goodies and bug fixes into cvs.

Vivian 



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